Six reasons why Tiger Woods will never win another Major

Simply put, Tiger Woods revolutionized the game of golf. He was like no one the game had ever seen, and the masses flocked to watch him play- no, change- the game of golf.

Woods was on television playing golf as a toddler, became the first man ever to win the US Junior amateur multiple times, won the US amateur at a younger age than anyone previously, and stormed onto the PGA Tour in a cyclone.

Woods’ fist-pumping, energetic, aggressive style sent PGA Tour veterans cowering in the corner, and Woods told the world he was here to stay right off the bat with a record-shattering 12-stroke victory in the 1997 Masters.

Woods, then 21, came onto the pro circuit and absolutely embarrassed the field in golf’s most prestigious tournament. Almost immediately thereafter, Augusta National, the host course, began making drastic changes in an effort to “Tiger-proof” the golf course, so such a beatdown wouldn’t happen again.

Spoiler alert: it did. Woods has won there three times since.

And did I mention that Woods is black? In a game where rich white men historically trotted around the course with blacks allowed only to caddie, Woods rocked their world by not only making it on tour, but by owning it.

That same course that implemented structural changes to prevent Tiger from winning didn’t allow black members until 1990, just six years before Tiger made it on tour. It refused women until 2012.

There will never be another player like Tiger Woods. He was so different, so revolutionary, so dominant, so intense; he’s a once-in-a-lifetime player that the world has never seen before and may never see again. Personally, there will never be another player that I idolize more or root for harder. No golfer in my lifetime has ever captured audiences more thoroughly than Eldrick Woods, and for me, none ever will.

Which is why it hurts me so much to realize that it’s all over.

Tiger Woods will not win another major championship. He’s won 14 of them, and ten years ago, it wasn’t a question of if, but rather when, Tiger would break Jack Nicklaus’ record of 18 majors.

Too much has changed, too much has gone down for Tiger to be the player and the man he once was, and there are six specific reasons why.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Tiger winning at Augusta again.

I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Tiger winning at Augusta again.

1. Age

This one is obvious: Tiger isn’t getting any younger. Now 38 years old, he’s entering the end of his prime as a golfer. Can he be competitive for several more years? Of course. Jack won at Augusta when he was 46, and Phil Mickelson continues to play at a high level into his 40s.

But with that said, the list of current 40+ players winning regularly is very, very short, if it exists at all.

2. Health

This is closely tied to age, and is much more detrimental to Tiger’s ability. While age is just a number, a bad back is anything but, and that is what ails Woods right now. The knee seems to be fine, but now the back is giving Tiger fits. This type of injury can linger, and derail anyone’s career.

3. Confidence

Did Tiger Woods have the best golf swing when he arrived on tour? Maybe. Did he have the best mental game? Without a shadow of a doubt.

Woods’ advantage was between his ears, as well as between the ears of his competitors. In the early 2000s, when Tiger was plowing through the world’s best players with ease, everyone in the field believed it was Tiger Woods’ championship to win. He had a killer instinct and a will to win that was unparalleled, making him a terrifying competitor with ferocious intensity.

Now, he lacks that same confidence. I’m not sure anyone believes Tiger can win on a weekly basis anymore, and his own failures have allowed doubt to creep in. No golfer can win unless he believes he can.

4. Putting

When Tiger was at his best, he never missed clutch putts. Every putt that had to go in did just that, and at one point he had a streak of something like 1,000 straight putts made inside three feet.

That was before he changed putters. I can’t fault Woods for doing so- the money thrown at him for going to the Nike Method he now uses must have been ridiculous. But since switching from the Scotty Cameron putter he won 13 majors with, he hasn’t won another.

I think the Indian, and not the arrow, is at fault here, but the switch had to rattle Tiger’s confidence even further.

5. New swing

First of all, I think that Tiger’s swing is just as good now as it was when he was winning. However, it isn’t his swing.

Tiger grew up on tour taking wild lashes at the ball, playing a draw on nearly every shot. Now, he’s toned it down for more control, opting for a fade instead.

I like his new swing- it’s more fundamentally sound and will produce more consistently- for most players. But this is Tiger Woods we’re talking about- I’m not sure firing Butch Harmon and switching to Sean Foley as his swing coach was the best move for him.

6. Strength of competition

The PGA Tour has evolved since Tiger got on tour- a great example of this is the purse size, or earnings for players who make the cut in a tournament. Tiger’s first major win- the 1997 Masters- had a purse of $2.7 million, with $486,000 going to the champion.

In 2013, Adam Scott made just shy of $1.5 million for winning, with the total purse being $8 million.

Now, not all of this can be attributed to Woods, but he’s certainly had a hand in popularizing the game throughout the last 20 years. His own doing may be his undoing- as popularity and money have increased, so has his competition. The players are better, parity is at an all-time high, and anyone can win on any given week making it harder for Tiger to do so.


Tiger Woods hasn’t won a major since 2008, when he topped Rocco Mediate and the rest of the US Open field on one leg, limping around Torrey Pines in a stoic manner, determined to get it done at all costs.

Since that day, we haven’t seen that same Tiger- only glimpses of what he once was.

There have been so many moments in Tiger’s career that have left is in shock and awe, that gave us no option but to rise to our feet in amazement. From the ace at 16 in the Arizona desert to the gutty US Open win at Torrey, and everything in between (a certain Augusta chip-in comes to mind), Tiger has been nothing short of unbelievable.

Until he prowls down the 18th fairway, wearing red, tied for the lead once again, I’ll be left with no more than memories of what it was once like to watch the man they call Tiger.

  • Joe

    Sorry,….but I know better. I grew in the big 3 era and the players then were way better than most of today’s guys. If Jack Nicklaus was in Tigers era with modern equipment he still would have been better. Nicklaus just didn’t have to scramble around like Woods did. Just like everyone today thinks Lebron is the best of all time. No way is that true either.

  • Tom P

    Tiger drew me into enjoying the game of golf. I always enjoyed watching the best, or at least who we all thought would be the best ever. He’s a few records short to be able to claim that title in my opinion. Unless a miracle happens or he starts taking this game drastically more serious, like it was life and death as he did growing up on the course. As his father had him trained with a rigorous military structure that was a constructed masterpiece of technical, mental & physical golf, the likes of which will never, ever be seen again. It’s a tragedy & will go down in history as the best player, who became a hero, but could have been a legend.

  • Raymond Vecchio

    I do think he is making a mistake by not playing more often. I would play every week. Why not?Play the game you love man! If you still do love it.
    But most of all lighten up.
    Have some gratitude,get grateful man ,your young, in good health, rich, and you could bang any girl you wanted. So stop sulking.Its only golf.

  • Raymond Vecchio

    Don’t forget he won 5 times in 2012 or 2013 and was #1 in world. Competition is better but when he was at his best nobody believed they could beat him. He could still win two majors,maybe.

  • Mit

    Tiger Woods – I wouldnt bet against him – He needs to be healthy – for me – thats the only question – Look what Fred Couples has done with a bad back-

    • Avery Windcastle

      What exactly has Fred Couples done with a bad back?

      • Mit

        In 2003, at age 44, Couples finished 34th on the PGA Tour money list. That year he also won the Shell Houston Open

        In April 2006, Couples challenged at Augusta, making a Sunday run at what would have been his second green jacket before finally losing to eventual winner Phil Mickelson, with whom he was paired in the final round. Had Couples won, he would have been the oldest player ever to win the Masters at age 46 years, 188 days—supplanting Jack Nicklaus,
        who, coincidentally, won his final Masters 20 years earlier and also at
        the age of 46. In 2004, Couples won the Dunhill Links Championship Team Event at St Andrews, partnered by New Zealand amateur Craig Heatley.

        In 2005 Couples sank a crucial putt in the Presidents Cup, securing an unlikely 1-up victory over the International team’s best player, Vijay Singh. This match proved to be pivotal in the contest. Couples has now played Singh three times in Presidents Cup match play, and has yet to lose.

        Couples at the 2009 Telus World Skins Game in Lévis, Quebec

        Couples was sidelined for virtually the entire 2007 season because of health problems. However, he did compete in the 2007 Masters, making the cut for the 23rd consecutive time, tying the record held by Gary Player. Couples missed the cut in 2008 and 2009.

        In 2009, Couples limited his play but performed impressively at the Northern Trust Open. If it wasn’t for Phil Mickelson shooting a 62 on that Saturday, Couples may have won instead of finishing third. He nearly won the Shell Houston Open but bogeyed the last three holes and finished third behind Paul Casey. He also played well at the HP Byron Nelson Championship (T8) and the AT&T National (T11) tournaments. He hurt his back practicing for the RBC Canadian Open and had to withdraw. But he rested and recovered and made the cut for the 2009 PGA Championship (T36) and performed successfully in the Wyndham Championship (T5) which put him past the $1,000,000 mark on the money list for the 7th time in his career.

        Couples tied with Jason Dufner after leading the second round of the 2012 Masters Tournament, looking to become the oldest person to win a major. He finished tied for 12th.
        Couples made his debut on the Champions Tour at the opening event of the 2010 season, the Mitsubishi Electric Championship in Hawaii.[9] He nearly won the tournament, finishing second to Tom Watson.
        Couples later stated, “I had a wonderful time. I think I was 21 under
        par and didn’t win a tournament. That hasn’t happened too many times.”
        Had he won, he would have become the 16th player to win his Champions
        Tour debut. He won his next three starts, The ACE Group Classic, the Toshiba Classic and the Cap Cana Championship,
        becoming the first player in Champions Tour history to win three of his
        first four career events. Couples made another run at the 2010 Masters Tournament but finished 6th. It was his 26th top ten finish in a major tournament. A second place finish in the Senior PGA Championship was a disappointment for him. But an even greater disappointment was losing the U.S. Senior Open to Bernhard Langer.
        Couples had a 1 shot lead after 55 holes, but disaster struck on the
        par 5 2nd. He decided to lay up rather than going for the green. His lay
        up shot was effective, but his 3rd shot landed in the water. After
        dropping 4, his 5th shot was driven over the green. He was on in 6 but
        finished the hole with a triple bogey; his 1 shot lead became a 3 shot
        deficit. He played solidly the rest of the round, but couldn’t catch up
        to Langer. He was very disappointed for letting down his hometown fans
        who cheered for him every step of the way. He earned a 4th win at the Administaff Small Business Classic. On Sunday, he was grouped with Corey Pavin and Mark Wiebe and soared past them and the rest of the field shooting a 9 under 63, with 29 on the back nine. Couples won the Champions Tour Rookie of the Year award in 2010.

        Couples was sidelined once again for most of the 2011 season because
        of his stubborn back problems. But after receiving treatment in Germany, he was able to come back. He won his first major tournament on the senior circuit by defeating John Cook, on the third hole of a sudden death play-off, capturing the Senior Players Championship.

        In July 2012, Couples won his second senior major championship when he won The Senior Open Championship at Turnberry. He came from a stroke back to win by two over Gary Hallberg.
        He made a 25 foot putt for birdie on the last hole to hold off
        Hallberg, for a round of three under 68 on Sunday. This was his eighth
        victory in total on the Champions Tour.

  • Will C

    He’s on steroids, oh, oh, he cheated too. And he’s mean and cusses.

    It’s really just pathetic the nonsense people say now.

    Tiger was amazing – the greatest golfer the world has ever seen – we can only hope to enjoy some more greatness from him in these final years of his career (definitely for the excitement of it all, but also so these losers and there comments can crawl back from where they came from).

    • Joe

      He was on steroids or “something”. That’s pretty obvious. You think not? Really?

  • TigerLover

    The whole steroid idea is a joke. If you have seen Tiger in real life, you realize that he is tall and slender like the rest of the guys these days. He was muscular, but not overly bulky as is construed by certain critics. Golf is not a game where big muscles helps you hit it far as it is in baseball and the blood doping and steroids that Armstrong was using to increase stamina are certainly not applicable here. I have spent a lot of time in the gym in my day and can also attest that to get to Tiger’s size steroids are certainly not necessary. Now, that said, I also have a bad back and the weighted vest and boots that Tiger used to run around with ARE probably part of the reason his back is so shot.

    • Joe

      Not today but a few years ago he was definitely doing something.

  • Ed Hall

    Let’s just be honest at this point. He was using steroids. He’s just like Bonds, Armstrong, Manny, A-rod, Sosa, McGuire ,take your pick. As soon as he went off, he started to tank. Simple. End of story.

    • Joe

      They all wanted to believe Lance Armstrong was “clean” too.

  • Tiger Caligula

    ” When all the banners come down, and all the accolades are over, the only meaningful thing that ENDURES, is THE WILL TO WIN ” – Vince Lombardi…..( unless someone bashes your head with a nine iron for whoring !!)

    “…….all glory is FLEETING !!” – General George S. Patton

  • DrVinneyboombahtz

    “Simply put, Tiger Woods revolutionized the game of golf. He was like no one the game had ever seen, and the masses flocked to watch him play- no, change- the game of golf.”

    The same thing was written about Arnold Palmer when my dad was young, and later Jack Nicholas as I grew up. I’m sure it was written about Bobby Jones and Ben Hogan in my Grandfathers lifetime. The fact is, is that there have been plenty of people who have revolutionized the game of golf, Tiger is just the latest. Don’t believe me; wait and watch the papers in 20 years for some kid too young to really remember Tiger in his prime to write the same thing about the great golfer at that time. You will shake your head and think, “he means well, if he could have only watched Tiger play. That is what people out of their 20’s and 30’s are saying about you right now.

  • Iris

    I remember watching Tiger on the Johnny Carson show. He was only about three. He seemed like
    a strict Dad. Perhaps his father should have waited until he was older and have fun just playing with his friends and being a little kid.

  • Andrew L

    Poor guy, his ex wife has a voodoo doll of him, sorry Tigerina it’s all over for you!

  • timbo

    Nicklaus might not have had the blistering distance of Woods (or the technological advances in club design that helped) but by the same token, when you burn as brightly as Woods did with his physically demanding approach to striking a golf ball it shouldn’t be unexpected that it all ended up taking a physical toll on his body. So spare us the violins on what might have been regarding Nicklaus’s record of 18 majors – had Woods been a little more circumspect in his approach and not launched into those course-changing/opponent demoralizing attacks his body might have lasted the distance as far as that revered record is concerned.

    Further and as already pointed out, the depth of talent in Nicklaus’s day was staggering compared to the one-major wonders and handful of decent players who’ve taken on Woods. When Nicklaus came along he had to face the challenge of dethroning America’s then current king of golf, Arnold Palmer, and then worked his way through a career that came up against some of the finest golfers the game has seen, from Gary Player and Tom Watson, Lee Trevino and Hale Irwin, through to Greg Norman, Seve Ballesteros and a host of other fine players like Johnny Miller, Ben Crenshaw, Ray Floyd, Tom Kite and so on. Who has Woods had to deal with – Ernie Els and Phil?

    It’s very easy to take a selective perspective and say so and so was the greatest ever in the game BUT for the fact of this or that. So injury will rob Woods of even getting close to taking out the record set by Nicklaus? Well, them’s the breaks of putting your physical well-being on the line with such a physically wrenching golf stroke in the prime of your career and of having subjected your body to so much wear and tear from such an unusually early age. One could just as easily cite Ralph Guldahl as arguably the greatest player because of his stellar play during a three year period before WWII – never mind the way his game promptly went out the window soon after. Greg Norman had a Woods-like ability to take a course apart in demoralizing fashion and could pull out the most astonishing strokes at will. He could and should have racked up close to ten majors rather than the paltry two British opens he took out, as well as acquiring the unenviable reputation of being one of the unluckiest and mentally fragile players under pressure the game has seen. The greatest BUT for that? How about Bobby Jones in his prime years, or just a snapshot of his stellar 1930 season? What of Sam Snead and the perfect swing that allowed him to shoot a round of 60 at age 71 and set a tour average of 69 in 1950 that stood until Woods finally beat it 50 years later with considerably more advanced clubs?

    The fact is you cannot be selective in your application of what constitutes ‘the greatest’ and just cherry pick rounds, tournaments, or a season here and there to make a case. Jack Nicklaus established his record and reputation by consistency and fine play over a two decade career, with a compact and technically fine game that didn’t exact a physical toll on his body, and against stellar opposition that culminated in still having enough of a game to be able to beat a sizzling Greg Norman to take out his final major in his mid 40′ – at this point in time Woods doesn’t even look like he has enough of a game left to be able to even remain competitive into a fifth decade, let alone take out another major. Further, Jack’s game never fell apart in his prime the way that Woods’ has done in recent times. Woods may have had a steely edge to his mental approach that has since deserted him, but Nicklaus retained his mental composure to the very end of his career. Case closed as far as I’m concerned. Others are free to disagree.

    Lastly, while it actually has nothing to do with results, Nicklaus was in a class of his own compared to Woods in terms of his conduct both on and off the course, remaining to this day the kind of paragon of decency, courtesy and humility that hark back to the kind of virtues Americans were once admired for – no one was rooting more for Woods to take out the championship total record than Nicklaus himself. Woods the cheating, womanizing cheapskate seems far more emblematic of modern times.

    • PSimmo

      Nicklaus absolutely had blistering distance.
      He was as long with persimmon and balata as Tiger Woods was with metals and 3 pc. balls.
      He regularly hit the ball over 300 yards. Woods had nothing on Jack.

      • Joe

        Nicklaus in his prime with modern equipment would have been hitting it further than everyone except maybe Bubba.

  • clackmannanman

    Jack Nicklaus had to beat first Ben Hogan and Sam Snead, then Johnny Miller, Lee Trevino, Tom Weiskopf, Arnold Palmer, Billy Casper, Gary Player, Tony Jacklin, Tony Lema, Tom Watson, Greg Norman, Ray Floyd, Hale Irwin, Tom Kite, Seve Ballesteros and other golfers whose talents have never been equalled. Eldrick Woods had Davis Love 3 to beat!!!!
    Furthermore, Nicklaus was the greatest “loser” ever, with unparalleled sportsmanship (see his reaction when Watson holed his putt to win the “duel in the sun” of 1977). Compare Woods’ spitting, swearing and club throwing tantrums.
    No. I’m glad to see the back of Eldrick Woods and his HGH-supplying Canadian doctor. Nicklaus never had to resort to anything other than a strict diet

  • AarOnTheBox

    Tiger during 05-09 was better than Tiger 99-03. In fact, if Tiger had putted better with the clutch putts, like the writer wrote, Tiger would have 5-6 more majors without a problem because his Haney swing was that much better.

    Tiger was already one of the best long and mid-iron players but he was just average inside 140 yards under Butch. Under Haney Tiger became THE best long, mid, short iron and wedge player in on TOUR. Just go look at the stats.

    Further, Tiger woods in 2000 set a scoring average record (First to ever beat Byron Nelsons 68.18 that nobody ever thought could be touched…and nobody except Tiger has even come within half a stroke of it). However, Tiger beat Byron Nelson’s scoring average three times under the Haney Swing…but this is where if you know what you are talking about, you will understand…

    The scoring average is adjusted for the competition or, basically, par is not the number on the course, its the average number of the players to determine who is best among the players rather that who only plays on easy courses with easy set ups and not in majors which can give you a scoring average leader that should not be there.

    Tiger shot 68.12 in 2006, matched his 2000 scoring average in 2007 with another 67.79, and had a 68.06 in 2009 (2008 we cannot talk about because he only played 7 events, won 5, and finished two strokes out of the other two for a 5th and a 2nd – which of course was as 67.63 I believe – but you can’t count that).

    Again, as I point that out, remember that everyone else in 2006-2009 had really raised their game since 2000 by spending more time working on their games, more players with swing coaches, turning almost the entire TOUR into fitness nuts…and yet he still dominated at the same winning percentages against them almost exactly as he did in 99-03…despite not putting as well in the majors (especially at Augusta).

    Butch Harmon has to be the most overrated swing coach in history. He believes in definitive and does not know how to work with a golfer. He knows how to direct a golfer. He also has an ego. And he knows so little of what he is speaking, for when Tiger was not winning and ended up winning only one time in 2004, Johnny Miller said Tiger Woods’s swing looked terrible and Butch Harmon said Tiger was in denial about his golf swing because Tiger said he was getting close…

    Then Tiger went on to take 2 majors in 2005, 2 in 2006, with a 2nd, and the ending the year with 6 wins in a row, and then having probably one of the most impressive golfing years in history in 2007 based on his consistency, and then destroying everyone in 2008, even on one leg at the end. 2009 was also Tiger’s third best year, despite no major wins, simply based on all of his other wins and his continued consistency.

    Think about this. Under that “ugly” & “In denial” swing, Tiger went: 1-2-1-4-3-CUT-1-1-2-2-12-1-2-1-6-6-CUT-2 in those majors. The first cut was right after his dad had died and he had very little in him so we can give him a pass I think. And the third right before that? That was the last tournament his dad would be alive for. Steve Williams said it was the only time he saw Tiger try “too hard.” listen to how badly Tiger putted…and I think this is what started some of his putting demons because Tiger also putted horribly in the 2005 US Open at Pinehurst. This was a course that was a 2nd shot course which sets up perfectly for Tiger – and Tiger finished solo-second behind Michael Campbell, two strokes back despite finishing DEAD LAST in putting in the field – anyone ever heard of a player finishing solo-2nd in ANY major while finishing dead last in putting? That is how good his swing was becoming. Tiger also finished just 5 places from last in putting at the PGA that year, finishing just two strokes back in 4th. He was 4 strokes from a calendar slam. But onto 2006 Masters.

    Now, Tiger putted very bleh most of the week, but just look at how he gave that masters away in a 6 hole stretch on the back 9 on Sunday:

    – Missed a 10-footer for birdie on 12

    – Missed a 5-footer for eagle on 13

    – Missed a 12-footer for birdie on 14

    – Missed another 5-footer for eagle on 15

    – Missed a 7-footer for birdie on 16

    – Three putted for birdie from 14-feet on 17

    Look at that. 3 strokes was all he was back. All he would have had to do was make the 5 footers and not three putt. Or not three putt and make any of those other two putts. Or he could have made that 14 footer and only needed 1 of those other two. Point is, he was trying too hard and he has struggled with his putting in bigger events more since I feel. Yet, he still ranked as the best putter and had the best short game on Tour which allowed him to dominate the way he did going forward from there.

    I mean, in majors from 2005-2009 against increased competition with equipment that really equalizes things and lets players get away with mishits they previously would not have…11 of 18 top 2s, 15 of 18 top 6s? It’s amazing. Tiger had more top 3s and top 5s under Haney’s swing despite the more streaky putting and the more wayward driver than 99-03.

    Why? Well Tiger refused to change equipment at the time. Tiger did not bend his clubs so that when he hit an 8 iron he was actually hitting a 7 iron with an 8 on it like all the other players on TOUR. Tiger is the only one who plays with traditional lofts. So when his 8 iron go farther than his competitors 8 iron, hits actually his 8 iron going farther than his competitors 7 iron.

    More so, Tiger stayed with a high spin ball because Tiger was a TRUE ball striker. He was not a Vijay Singh who hit a simple cut every time. He was not Rory who can only hit a draw and falls apart on firm courses and in the wind because he cannot hit a fade with consistency or hit any kind of knock-down shot or three-quarter shot.

    Tiger on the other hand hit stringers, hooks, high draws, low draws, punch cuts, high power fades…he hit every shot and often, I think it hurt him. It was almost a way of making things more interesting for him.

    That being said…Tiger has done it all and all in competition. He is the greatest golfer in the history of the game and he was written off:

    – because he finished 60th in his first event as a pro. Then he won 2 of the next 5 with the other three being two 3rds and a 5th.

    – because he changed his swing in 1998 and they could not understand that Tiger knew you cannot have a swing that is based on timing to have true success. There are only four majors and you cannot hope that the conditions are going to happily match your needs and that you are going to be peaking or have “the feel” that week with your timing. Anyone who plays golf at a high level understands that feeling that can leave from a year to the next, a month, a week or even a day to the next. If you are truly dedicated, you want to remove that as much as possible and so Tiger went about doing that and got attacked for and call names by the same haters, being Norman (maybe the biggest Tiger hater), (almost hates Tiger as much as Norman), Miller, Strange, Venturi, etc. That is why he did what he did to go to his Butch Harmon swing.

    Tiger understood he would have to take a step backwards before taking two forwards and he could care less what anyone else said. And he showed everyone up. Did any of those haters that doubted Tiger ever even talk about how wrong they were? Nope. They just pretended like they always believed in him. ROFL.

    A great example of how Tiger became a victim of his own success with everyone holding him to a different standard. At the end of 2000, Tiger finished the year with a 3rd, 2nd, and a 5th. Then he started 2001 with and 8th, 5th, 13th, 4th, 13th. Oh no, he went 8 tournaments without winning! AHHH! They didn’t bother to look at the consistency, they just were nuts and talk of a slump was everywhere (which any true golfing fan over the age of 15 remembers). Then Tiger won 4 of the next 5 including Bayhill, The Masters, the Players Championship, and the Memorial with the other being a 3rd at the Byron Nelson. Yeah, slump.

    Can’t anyone see the dumb “what have you done for me lately mentality? It’s bonkers.

    In the end, with the increased competition, nobody will doubt Tiger is and was the greatest golfer on the planet. His records will stand the test of time:

    – Tiger’s adjusted scoring average records that will never be beaten considering nobody has come with a half of a stroke within Byron Nelson’s and Tiger has 4 seasons with better ones (adjusted scoring average is the fair one that takes into account field and conditions and removes luck) and he also beat Nelson’s actual scoring average twice.

    – Probably what is most important, is his made cuts streak. It personified the greatness and dominance of Tiger Woods. As Ben Hogan said, golf is not about how you play when you are at your best but how well you play when you are not. or his cut streak.

    – Then Tiger has the record of most consecutive rounds at par or better at 52. He also broke the record of most consecutive events at par or better at 35, and become the only player to finish every single tournament at par or better (impressive considering Tiger plays in the hardest events with the deepest fields – something many overlook).

    – Matching Snead’s record of winning an event 8 times of which he has done at Firestone & Bay Hill. He won at Torrey Pines 7 times, and 8 if you include the US Open there. He has won 5 separate events at least 6 times.

    – Matching Snead in winning at least 6 events in six different seasons.

    – Tiger has the record of seasons with 5 or more wins at 10 with Snead at 8 and Hogan and Nicklaus at 7

    – 18 world golf championship event wins (most with stronger fields than the Masters)

    – And of course, 79 wins (6 ahead of Nicklaus), 14 majors (4 behind Nicklaus) even though Tiger’s WGC events and playing against the best more often against tougher fields stands for something. Nicklaus himself said he only really worried about 12 players when he entered a major. Can you imagine anyone over the last 20 years, even Tiger, saying that?

    You see, that is why there was such a small group with a few more major wins and that is because those who just put a lot of effort into their games were able to dominate the rest of the fields because golfers not only didn’t practice as much, but they didn’t have swing coaches and computers and gizmos to find out the best ball and driver loft angle for your swing and the same shaft, etc., which made a huge difference.

    The has changed the game greatly when it comes to players ball striking and putting. With the low spin balls and the much larger club heads and much larger sweet spots, its much easier to hit the ball farther and straighter even if you don’t hit it on the button like the best ball strikers, you get punished, as it should be…a real test. However, the truly great ball strikers were actually hurt by this new equipment and those include Durant, Garcia, Weekely, Stenson, Mahan, Furyk, Rose, Senden, Watson, Deleat, Hass, Horschel, Dufner, Henry and of course, Woods.

    Then of course we started seeing the long putters and anchoring which allowed bad putters to putt averagely and average putters to putting well, especially in the case of scoring putts inside 20′. All of the technology is removing the difficulty and true skill required to play well in golf, which is sad because that is why most people like golf…because when you do well, nothing feels better.

    With not only the natural growth of any sport creating better players and tougher competition, particularly when it becomes more popular and the influx of new talent that would not have been there otherwise, you have to be rather dense to say that competition was Tougher in Jack’s era where there were usually only 15-20 guys who could win and that is why a small group took a lot of the majors. However, I’d say, if you want to say Palmer was one of Jack’s competitors, then Rory is one of Tiger’s. But mainly, it shows that, because of the lack of competition, those who tried harder to improve was able to separate and get in that upper group. That is why Jack has so many 2nds. It was almost always one of those group of competitors that took the win. It is also a severe attack on Mickelson, Singh, Harrington, Rory, Els and the other really good players in the game today.

    Today, all you need to think about are things like Beem,, Micheel, Hamilton, Dimarco, May, Mediate, Cabrera, Lawrie, Garcia, Yank, Curtis, Immelmen, Clarke, etc.. These are the people who, despite being ranked way down the list at the times, were able to win because they just had a great week and because the competition is so close, sometimes that’s all it takes to win a major, removing the position where a small group could take all of the majors.

    The other thing people try to say is that people wilt when they see Tiger on the board. I guess I need to remind someone that unlike Nicklaus, Tiger always was ahead after 54 holes in his major wins and his name was already up there. Not only that, there are numerous examples of Tiger being out played in that final round yet still winning with only the one loss. He did not need people to fall apart because his name popped on the scoreboard on Sunday like Nicklaus, it was already there! The equipment and the number of European players on the PGA Tour nowadays and with the best players playing much more nowadays in the same tournaments, its much harder to win and with the game becoming international, that just increases the talent pool and the increase in the desire of more younger people to raise up and start playing like many did with Nicklaus and Palmer and now with Tiger and Maybe Mickelson and now perhaps Rory.

    Its up to people decided if Tiger’s far more player of the year awards, PGA player of the year awards, the Vardon trophy, the money titles, and all of the other records and the far superior winning percentage against a much stiffer group of competition is enough to make up for 4 majors (something that much emphasis is put on even though, the masters has a weaker field than the WGC events and the Players is often the deepest field every year).

    Also, golf is not about how well one does in one week, its about consistency and how well they do over a long period of time and how well they do when they are not playing their best…

    Like in 2004. Harmon and the gang of dummies were oblivious to the fact that while TIger only won once in 2004, he had 3 runner-ups and 3 third place finishes and 14 top tens, higher than in 2003. That is amazing while in the middle of changing a swing and instead of recognizing that, they had no idea what they were talking about.

    As I said, after Tiger ended up being better than ever, did any of them, once talk about how wrong they were?

    I also noticed one thing. These commentators who throw shade at Ti ger are all ex-players who…lost their games. Miller couldn’t putt, Norman had no ability to play under pressure, Chamblee was never all that good and as competition got better he went bye-bye. And with David Duval recently reporting on course and talking with Miller and agreeing that what Tiger said about his pitching didn’t make sense (it actually makes A LOT OF SENSE) not only shows you now why both Miller and Duval were such horrible pitchers. These naysayers who are jealous is the issue. Think about the commentators who want to write Tiger off and almost do it with glee: Miller, Faldo, Chamblee, Duval…all players who lost their games and there is no doubt if they can convince themselves the same thing happened to Tiger, the best golfer in the world, it can happen to anyone, and make them feel better. Their intentions are nefarious and self-absorbed. It’s sad.

    They continue to write him off and continue to be wrong but pretend like they never said such things once Tiger proves them wrong, not with words, but with action. You would think these guys would learn. What is the definition of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

    And Tiger doesn’t have competition from multiple major winners ho know how to win: Mickelson, Singh, Harrington, Rory, Els. So that is debunked.
    I would say that, with the competition now, if Rory wins 10 majors in his career, it will be as good as 14 by Tiger. However, I am not convinced Tiger will stay at 14. We will see. The point is, the competition Tiger has played under is tougher and quite a bit of that has to do with himself, raising the level of competition. He has better records in every area of the game except for that one number attained by Nicklaus in just those 4 tournaments every year. I think everyone knows that with the way golf goes, sometimes you get lucky to have one of your best weeks or one of your best rounds and with the depth today, that means they can take a major, often beating some of the best in the game today including Tiger & Mickelson who have quite a few 2nds among themselves as well.

    Anyway, we’ll see.

    • Bobby Sittloh

      This is just mind blowing. Very well written. Thank you. I copied and pasted this and emailed it to all of my golf buddies. Really puts it all into perspective.

      • AarOnTheBox

        Well thanks. Pardon the lack of grammatical errors, I did not look it all over, I just typed out a bunch of information I have stored in my head over the years.

        I am first a golfer (not a golf fan), then a golf fan, and then a Tiger fan. Why Tiger? Um, why not Tiger? Being a golfer and having played with touring pros and been at the site of so many golfing events the number can’t even be ball-parked, I know when people attack Tiger about his temper that they have never seen anything but what their television shows them.

        I’ve always pointed out that people take Tiger and show his outbursts because it gets people talking. Heck, they show Tiger coming out of a Porta-Potty for Christ’s sake (I am not joking, as you may as well know)! Tiger on screen tying his shoes gets better ratings than Rory McIlroy winning a major. Golf is entertainment and like anything else, a business. The perks all the golfers enjoy are based on the television ratings Tiger pulls in.

        In 1995, the Tour made its tri-year deal with the networks to television the golf tournaments and when Tiger played in 1997-1998, the highest first place prize was 500k. Then after renegotiations based on the ratings of the tournaments more than tripling (the ones with Tiger in it), suddenly in 1999 there were three events that each paid 1 million dollars in a first place prize!

        Sadly, too few golfers are respectful or thankful enough to tiger for their lifestyles and riches that would be less than half of what they are if there was never any Tiger. Mickelson was out and winning well before Tiger and we never saw anything happen. Now, of course, the networks had to try to put Mickelson up there are a formidable opponent but the truth is, he never actually was and that is sad. Mickelson stole 3-4 tournaments from Tiger over the years and Tiger probably took 4-5 from Mickelson. Outside of that, there is not much outside of Tiger in the 2005 PGA even though it was Tiger’s putting more than anything and the 2006 Masters which was the same thing. Tiger gave Mickelson tournaments in those years that he would have won had he putted like he did when he was young. But putting and the psychology of it is part of the game. Mainly though, the point I am making is, nobody brought the energized spirit to the game that Tiger did.

        Think about the fact that it took the PGA Tour 30 years to donate 300 million to charity by 1997. That is an average of 10 million dollars of charitable donations (very respectable) a year. Then after Tiger came in, it only took 7 years to reach 1 billion. So because of the money being brought in by Tiger, charitable donations went up TEN FOLD on average…until it only took them another 6 years to hit 2 billion, making that even more than a ten-fold increase of charitable dollars. Tiger rarely gets credit for that which does not even include how much Tiger has given not just through his charity but because of investigation into his taxes to find out abound some massive charitable donations that he never spoke about.
        On top of that, Tiger, bringing so many more people into golf and his changing the game into one that requires significant practice and fitness that even Mickelson had to start worrying about that have given legitimacy to this sport.

        Now I am a Mickelson fan as well because of his talent and his exciting aggressive play and the confidence he had in his ability, something that is a prerequisite to being a great golfer. However, whenever I see Mickelson give a fake smile after a triple bogey it just makes him look FAKE. Now I am sure he is feeling it in the inside but instead he held that inside which could, on top of Mickelson’s swing, affect his ability to move forward after a bad start. Mickelson has one of the stronger long term trends of either playing good golf or missing the cut if he didn’t start of well and it makes you question his ability to grind.

        Now, majors requiring people who can truly grind and stay patient, something Mickelson had trouble dealing with, with the pressure of each major passing by without him winning a major made it much more difficult for him (sort of like Tiger now but I will get to that) as each major passed. Then once Mickelson did win a major, he went on to win a major in each of three consecutive years and almost won a third major in a row in 2006 before he threw the tournament away on the 72d hole.

        Yet, the main issue with Mickelson, which also goes to showing that Butch has no comprehension that there is no one “perfect” swing and because of Harmon’s inability to understand that there is a different best swing” for each player. So with Mickelson’s somewhat unorthodox swing, he drops his long standing coach under whom he won more than half of his majors and almost three in a row with, to go work with Butch Harmon. However, in his 8 years with Harmon so far, Mickelson has not ONCE, not even ONCE had a year where he hit more fairways or greens in regulation than he did with Rick Smith when he left. Why? Because Harmon took Mickelson’s creativity factor out of the equation and replaced it with his “perfect swing” mechanics. It’s sad.

        Or himself until he relaxed quite a bit in those last 10 years and that is what people remember.

        I also like Mickelson because he seems to be just one of maybe just a handful, at most, of players who have openly given credit and stating that he and the others should be thankful to Tiger for the amount of money they were making…and not just from Tour purses but the increased popularity of the sport caused significant increases in endorsements for players. Why more people are not thankful for what Tiger has done for this game by truly turning it into what is viewed as a sport now by people who in the past did not considering Tiger’s domination affected the physical athleticism of the players and work ethic that had been lacking in the game prior to tiger.

        However, one thing about Mickelson is that ability even though his short game pertaining to his pitching and shipping is overrated. I had posted earlier about if you use the last 15 years in which Tiger played at least 10 tournaments, Tiger beat Mickelson scrambling in 12 of the 15 years and Mickelson only beat Tiger in 3 and that not only that, when Tiger beat Mickelson (in many cases where Tiger was 1 in scrambling which is something Mickelson has never done, but on top of that, Tiger beating Mickelson in scrambling by huge margins in half of those 12 years where in the three years Mickelson beat Tiger, two were 8 places ahead on the ranking and less, and the third year being the most with a 40-something ranking separation. yet, when you average their scrambling statistics, Tiger ranked 19th in scrambling and Mickelson ranked 61st. However, I am not a Mickelson fan because of his own course demeanor. It does not make me feel comfortable to see him smiling like a twit after making a double bogey. Tiger may have gotten angry but everyone is different and his anger allowed him to do the same thing I was taught to do when it came to nerves (get angry and confidently and egotistically so to destroy those nerves and create confidence).

        I believe Tiger was also taught this technique by his father and uses the anger to great effect and to get that anger out of his system and then reset and move onto the next shot. Now, maybe its not the best thing when the network shows every single thing he does, but it works for him and he has never done anything most other Tour players do. They just aren’t shown while they do it because they are trying to preserve a vision concerning what golf is really about and it does them no good to show Perez or Stenson throwing a temper tantrum. There is a huge double standard there.

        Now, I love Mickelson, but Mickelson seemed to need to let the press know every time he was going to give money to someone. Mickelson wanted the attention for it for his PR. Tiger did not and cared not. And yet people blame Tiger for the coverage the networks gave him. That is when I go back again and try to explain to people that the fact is that the networks need to make money off of ratings to get high advertisement prices and like I said before, despite what Tiger wanted, everything he did was shown because Tiger being on that screen raised ratings. It’s not Tiger’s fault and he would have prefer that it not be the case because of how much frustration he had to deal with on the course than other players because of that insane amount of coverage.

        Now, golf watchers complain about this as if it is Tiger’s fault that they cover him so much even though you know how much he wants his privacy (guess we have a idea of why now, huh? LOL). I just think its sad that there is such a double standard for Tiger compared to others. If Tiger cursed or threw his club into the lake the golfing world would come down hard on him and attack him. Instead, Rory gets treated like what he did was a great hilarious thing. Even Brandel Chamblee, who no doubt must be a racist, actually said “I don’t ever remember sitting on this stage and criticizing Tiger Woods.” Um, Brandel, we have the video tape of you doing just that about a dozen times…
        Apparently, Rory does it and Brandel Chamblee says he smiled and chuckled. However, Rory has nowhere near the following, the pressure and the expectations Tiger had to meet. As I previously noted, at the end of 2000 and into 2001 Tiger went 3rd, 2nd, 5th 8th, 5th, 13th, 4th, 13th and guess what? He was in a SLUMP! 5 out of 8 tops tens, 5 top 5s and finishing no worse than 13th and he is in a slump? The standards to which Tiger has been held has been so out of line that is absurd. Also, Chamblee’s complete and total lack of comprehension of the golf swing when he states he thinks Tiger should have stuck with the golf swing of 1997 that brought nothing but inconsistency to him and would have made it ten times harder for him to win majors with such a steep swing that makes it almost impossible to control spin…well, the man really is pretty clueless and I don’t understand why he still has a job.
        So, no true golf fan would ever dislike the one golfer who has done more for the game of golf than any other player in history despite the death threats and the attacks on him from his for not giving enough back to the sport by playing in more different tournaments even though he had a very Jack Nicklaus like playing schedule, and today with so many times where the games best come together (4 majors, 3 WGC events, the Players, the 4 Playoff events – that right there is 12 of the 15 one must play) its hard to skip those big events to play in smaller events especially as one get older and have more responsibilities on their plate.
        No one has done so much for the sport and that is not just taking it to a new level in competitiveness and skill but to a point where the money and interest he generated resulted in so many more courses being built, equipment manufacturers investing tons of money in so many more golf clubs, increasing the amount of golf coverage that exists, including the Golf Channel which would not have survived without a Tiger Woods in the sport.
        Mainly, the double standard held to Tiger is absurd and is made mainly by players who have no game, are bitter they are announcers instead of players, and probably most of all are just envious people who hate anyone who succeeds in our culture.
        I am actually starting to lose respect for the official aspect of the sport and the players who all seem to just have this “conservative” political viewpoint which typically by the numbers shows there is still a lot of racial prejudice against black people but on top of that, have a problem with someone succeeding by working really hard.
        I also love how every one else seems to think they know what the problem is despite Tiger understanding the golf swing more than probably any coach out there having dropped out of 1st place under each of the swing overhauls and then coming back and winning with EACH swing. But yes, all of the others who retired early like Faldo, Miller, Chamblee, Nobilo, etc., think they know more than Tiger as if he doesn’t know what the solution is and they do. Did you ever think it may just be the fact that there is a big difference in knowing what one has to do and actually doing it?
        Whatever, incompetent announcers who have been wrong about Tiger EVERY SINGLE TIME. I guess a broken clock is right two times a day and that’s about what these people are (even though I enjoy Miller’s say what you think attitude – but sometimes he just says dumb things that end up being proven wrong).

        • plectrum

          Pardon the lack of grammatical errors? You should never apologise for that, rather you should apologise for the presence of errors. My beef is with a sentence in your earlier post, where you wrote, ‘In fact, if Tiger had putted better with the clutch putts, like the writer wrote, Tiger would have 5-6 more majors’. That must be the most ridiculous, redundant line ever. If Jack had putted better, he could probably have won another 5 or 6 majors, thereby placing the record beyond anyones’ grasp. In fact, if I putted better with the clutch putts, I could probably be a scratch golfer now.

          • justagolfer

            I couldn’t agree more. Over the past few years all anyone hears in the media is “if this or that would have gone Tiger’s way…” or “if Tiger’s back would have remained strong” or “if Tiger’s swing would have stayed the same”…the IF train is a mighty long one. The fact of the matter is unless Woods wins 5 more majors he will be forever be behind the great Jack Nicklaus…you can “if” and “but” forever but to no avail…second place is just the first loser. And TW is a loser!

          • Gene

            No more tiger, that’s the way it is, get over it

          • AarOnTheBox

            Wow. The first thing I have to say is that I indeed meant to apologize for my grammatical errors…and yes indeed its it ironic and kind of funny that I made a grammatical typo when I was apologizing for too many previous grammatical errors…however, its a tad narcissistic to a$$ume I would apologize for NOT making grammatical errors when my comment clearly had grammatical errors because it means you from the beginning are deciding the worst about me.

            So, I hope it was just a misunderstanding because I am a very self aware person with humility and was apologizing for the errors in my comment because I saw some of it after I was done and realized there was clearly some redundancy, run-ons and mistakes in my comment because I was typing too fast and not focusing solely on the comment when I was typing and did not take time to proofread.

            I also hope that what your somewhat unnecessarily condescending comment had nothing to do with the subject of the comment.

            So, speaking of that, I also think you misunderstood what I was saying in my comment as well.

            I was saying that if Tiger had made the clutch putts Tiger always seem to bury as well as people becoming accustomed to him making when he was a younger, more consistent putter. I was doing what is called backing up comments with true facts and data which I feel is sorely lacking from most people. Everyone wants to share their negativity but nobody wants to have a civil conversation where their disagreement is not always a personal attack but rather an explanation as to why they feel someone is wrong and that if that person thinks so, provides their own insightful and hopefully somewhat fact-based evidence as well. That is how I wish these comment threads would be which is why I try to set that example by providing explanation and evidence. However, I am often attacked personally and too many people flip out all over the place if my comment is more than 44 characters. Oh, wait – that was hyperbole just in case that leads to another misunderstanding. 😉

            My real intention was to first point out that Tiger’s Haney swing was actually superior to his Butch Harmon swing, something I am sure people don’t agree with, which is fine, but I did supply boatloads of evidence above to explain my opinion on that.

            The point was, the Tiger everyone was used to when it came to always making the putts he needed to under pressure was slipping a bit and that the fact that when you see him do something like finish 2nd, just two strokes back in a US OPEN despite being dead last in the field in putting, which is mind-boggling and I think sort of shows how well his so called “horrible” and “in denial” swing, according to Miller and Harmon respectively, really was.

            The other point was that Tiger was, from my perspective, starting to lose some of that previous sense of inevitability that Tiger was going to make those important clutch putts like he did in 97-02 and if you watched his career, you should know what I am talking about.

            To me, it was just starting to show that Tiger’s confidence was not as rock solid as it used to be as well and was listing the examples to back that up. Now, nobody ever fell apart when they were ahead of Tiger and resulted in Tiger swooping in and taking a victory because all the competition just laid down and played dead and just basically let Tiger win, like some suggest. In fact, I think what Tiger’s advantage was that when he lead going into the final round that players felt like (and Mickelson actually said this specifically in frustration and I am sure many other golfers felt the same way) Tiger would not make mistakes and beat himself and come back to the field like others might and that is what caused his competition to become to aggressive in trying to catch him, which, I am sure we would agree, does not really work out well on a major championship setup.

            My example about Tiger at the Masters in 06 was the most telling. You might want to read it again and then tell me if you think that a younger Tiger, the Tiger who still is known for his clutch putting (especially in his prime) would have missed all of those putts on a course he has won 4 times on and has finished in the top 6 in 10 of the last 13 masters he has played in. Man, to me that is crazy to write. Tiger Woods has been in the top 6 in 10 of his last 13 Masters.

            Anyway, the point was and as I said, Steve Williams said that the only time he ever saw Tiger try too hard was at the 2006 Masters. Like I said, he was trying desperately to win that damn green jacket before his dad died and he actually choked under his own pressure for the first time and I do think it finally created a tiny crack in Tiger’s confidence with his putter considering that in 2005, as I noted, Tiger lost to MICHAEL CAMPBELL of all people, by 2 strokes but it was because he finished dead last in putting. Then, at the PGA in 2005, Tiger finished 2 strokes back (4-6 strokes from a Calendar Grand Slam) again and there were only 5 players that putted worse than him that week. So, after those losses with his putter, and then in 2006, he seemed for the first time unable to will that ball in the hole, I think it started a problem for him psychologically.

            I also wanted to point this comment out from my comment that either you just disagree with or maybe missed:

            “Tiger gave Mickelson tournaments in those years that he would have won had he putted like he did when he was young. But putting and the psychology of it is part of the game.”
            Now, I am saying it was Tiger’s fault…he failed to keep his head on straight and putted horribly. However, I can see how that might sound like I am saying Mickelson didn’t win those tournaments but I am not. In context, if you read it, I was speaking to the fact that DESPITE Tiger putting pathetically, he was still right there, and pointing at the consistency in majors his “Haney Swing” brought him.

            Anyway, your comment was very sarcastic. Also, you saying that my comment was the most ridiculous and redundant line ever also seems…very unfair.
            I am hoping you are not just a Tiger hater like “justagolfer” who replied to you saying “…TW is a loser!” I hope you are a real, non-racist true golf fan and if you are, you appreciate Tiger and being able to watch the best golf ever played by anyone in history as well as everything Tiger has done for the sport from the attention, the increased network live golf we get to see that we didn’t before Tiger, keeping the Golf Channel healthy, the massive increases in charitable donations the TOUR has been able to make (more than the NFL, MLB & NBA COMBINED), all the flooded money into golf products from equipment to clothing, etc., as the game became more popular and probably most importantly, Tiger changing how golfers worked out the athleticism of the players that make people see golf more as a sport than ever, getting golf back into the Olympics, and bringing in all of the new amazing talent because of all the younger people Tiger inspired and of course, the money that both entices and no longer prevents athletes from choosing golf over another sport when they are deciding which way to go.
            I mean, Tiger didn’t just bring in golfers because he showed how “cool” golf can be, but I do dislike hearing people say that golf shouldn’t be considered “cool.” Yes, as adults, we don’t care how “cool” it is to play golf (and frankly, it annoys me because I hate seeing people who should be on the range and not on the course if they can barely get the ball off the ground but it comes with the new territory) but young people do and the many more young people that now choose golf has really created such a deeper pool of young talent we are starting to see come through and I think we are just starting to see the start of more and more better younger players coming out to play golf which is going to make things exciting.
            So, yes, the reason that it is so significant is that Tiger truly changed the way people looked at the sport and has made it cool enough to bring in more younger people who can start competing and winning at younger and younger ages and McIlroy is just the first of many…and the reason that is so important is because not only has Tiger given us that, but he has made it so that when he leaves golf, there will hopefully be enough younger excelling at the top level of the game which will not only just be great to watch but the younger more enthusiastic golfers will be able to carry on what Tiger started.
            So, that all being said…I hope you’re not a “TW is a loser!” guy and…
            let me just clear up one last thing…
            Yes…I know Tiger is/was better than Nicklaus but only because of the times…we cannot have Jack playing in this era or Tiger playing in that so we will never know who WOULD HAVE BEEN better…but we can say Tiger was better because he needed to do all he did to dominate the sport and the way the competition so quickly snapped to catch up to him was great but also did show that players now cannot get away with practicing as little as back in Jack’s era or give up advantage of not being as athletic as they could like back in Jack’s era.
            I think its a different sport in a way…and some parts of that I don’t like. I don’t like the length thing and I fault the PGA Tour for maybe not putting some equipment lines down earlier …but that’s another tale…but basically, unless Jack played in this era and got in more shape (he was in decent shape but he would have just been average as in the game today) and practiced as much as the players do and work on their games as much as they do, who knows if Jack would have been better or visa-versa if Tiger played back in Jack’s day.
            So, I don’t think we can ever know THAT and think the best answer is to just point out they were both the best golfers of their generations (or even the best golfers of one-and-a-half generations LOL, because they both started winning so young…so the best and most dominant golfers of their time.
            Anyway, cheers.

          • michael sampson

            I have just finished reading your quite lengthy posts. You seem to have a great deal of knowledge about golf and Tiger Woods specifically, but(and you should know that but means I disagree but not in this case) you have advanced the case of why Tiger will not be able to catch Jack in Major wins. That is, the greater competition and greater difficulty in overcoming the hardware that makes it easier for a lesser player to win, works against Tiger. Also other compelling factors such as his age and injuries will hinder him. I am not a golf fan, but did follow superficially Jack Nicklaus and my favorite Lee Trevino. Tried to watch as much as I could or read in golf magazines, but(there’s that but again) I was limited since I had to work two full time jobs. I am not a Tiger hater as I know that any golfer has been in a position to want to throw away his clubs and the only reason to come back is that moment of exhilaration as when you get a hole in one. Having said that, Tiger lost me when he acted like a clown and a child in one of the masters. I respect his ability and acknowledge his greatness as probably the greatest golfer of all time and surely as you have pointed out, the best of his time, but for me I cannot be a fan.

  • steve

    Scott, I go along with all you said. There is 2 more issues though that is hurting Tiger.1) He has a tendency to get rid of anyone around him who may get a little credit for his success.2) Both he and Roy need to tone done the body beautiful gym work and focus on winning golf tournaments rather than developing their abs. This might be a issue with Nike trying to make look super cool in their rags.

  • Robert Moylan
  • Jeremy Todd Miller


    • Not “You da man, go in” yeller

      Stating facts regarding documented despicable behavior is not bashing. Nor is the right to state these facts reserved for the perfect. Just being human does not preclude one’s right to be disgusted by the habitual personal misconduct of Mr. Woods, on and off the course. I hope, only a minuscule percentage of humans conduct themselves with such disregard for their family’s well beings as Mr. Woods. That he is still so admired is a sad comment on the fan base that you credit Mr. Woods with expanding. He has taken more from the game than anyone else. He has done more than anyone else to make golf just another commercial for the masses that do not have the character to appreciate what the game stood for. and against, before Mr. Woods.

    • PSimmo

      You’re a wang.

    • c Riswold

      You are wrong on many fronts. But keep typing in CAPs it make you so much more believable!

  • sidney t. culp

    Adios, Tiger. Ride on into the Sunset on your snow mobile.

  • Jeff Sheaffer

    Tiger Woods IS NOT BLACK. His father was 40% Cherokee and his mother is 100% Thailand .He played the race card from his first NIKE commercial and said there were certain courses that won’t allow him on the course.Guess what there are clubs I can’t get into! He NEVER had a job ! He was given $10 million contract from Nike and that was before he teed it up on the PGA Tour. Phil Knight gave his Dad a salary to offset his retirement job for the government. He had no class in that he threw clubs and cussed in front of little kids ! Not to mention his personal life!

    • Jeremy Todd Miller


      • Jeff Sheaffer

        I expected you to say that…make one comment about a person’s life and get hammered for telling the truth. EVERYBODY in the media knew what he was doing in his personal life and they worshipped him. Jeremy…answer this. Phil Michelson is the most generous guy on tour. He gives little kids autographs all the time plus huge tips to vendors on the course and off the course. In 2009 his wife and mother were struggling with breast cancer and he was diagnose with severe arthritis. That is real life! Nobody said anything about him UNTIL he said he was moving to Florida because of 65% tax rates in California. The media and other PGA pros hammered him for being selfish with his $! Tiger said the next day he moved to Florida in the 90’s BECAUSE of lower taxes NO COMMENT. If you read my comment I NEVER bashed him..just told the truth! Read Howard’s comment ….Nicklaus won 18 majors PLUS lots of 2nd place. He hung up his sticks in his 40’s Why? He didn’t make the $ that spoiled young pros did today. Tiger Woods changed the sport forever with his power and excitement! So what he made over $800 million in return!

        • AarOnTheBox

          Tiger increased TOUR charitable donations from ana verge of 10 million a year to 120 million a year during his first 6 years and then to 150 million a year within the last 7 years. On top of that, his foundation has given 10 times that of Mickelson’s and Mickelson has never given money to anything without first telling the media where journalists had to find out on their own about private donations to charities that tiger did not feel the need to even announce, like Mickelson. So you go ahead and tell yourself what you want you are full of it.
          Even Mickelson himself, one of few, thanks Tiger and says too few people realize just how much they owe Tiger and how much Tiger has done for the sport. You are clueless.

          As far as Mickelson goes, yes, Mickelson can’t help but tell everybody about his injuries and even those of his family members and has to contact the press about anything that happens…Tiger hides injuries and tries to keep things that have no place in the golf world out of it, as it should be rather than trying to get attention and pretend like you are a hero because of it. And when Tiger said he moved to Florida because of the taxes, he was defending Mickelson.

          However, Mickelson lied about his tax rate. He flat out lied. Mickelson’s 2010 federal income tax rate was 19%, his social security and Medicaid was 0.4% (because there is a cap and that cap was only 0.4% of what he made) and his state income tax, because he was in the top federal tax bracket was only 6.5%. I don’t know about you, but I considering Mickelson saying he pays 65% in taxes when he really only pays 26.3% a lie that people should have a real problem with. But maybe if he signs more autographs his infidelity issues in the past and his lies about taxes don’t matter. Get a clue.

          • Jeff Sheaffer

            How do you know that he pays ONLY 26% tax Rate? I pay more than that. My biggest question is the charitable donations that you claim that Tiger’s glorious presence gave to the PGA Tour. I have who are gold pros and work within the golf industry and golf took a huge plunge in popularity from 2003-209. I grew up as a caddy and junior golfer and golf is no longer the elite game. Why? Kids have better things to do than spending 5 hours on a golf course. Country club memberships tanked from 2003- now you can’t give away a membership. I went to the US Open in 2004 and 2005 and it was the most boring week of my life. At Pinehurst scalpers were selling tickets for $20. The most disappointing person on the course was Tiger Woods …no interaction and I got tired of little kids and drunks yelling Tiger ! Golf has become a boring sport and has been for the last 10 years. Tiger mania died in 2003 and many golf merchandise reps lost their jobs over the last 10 years. Tiger has no class in front of kids: throwing clubs and cussing. I grew up with charitable players like Chi Chi Rodriquez who started inner city camps for kids. Jack Nicklaus even said the players of this generation have no respect when they came to his Tournament in Muirfield in Ohio .The players never send thank you notes and wear flip flops and shorts in the clubhouse. I quit playing in 2006 and bought a horse.

          • c Riswold

            Talk about clueless. Go back t o holding that poster of tger up with one hand.

      • PSimmo

        you sure seem like a person that has a lot of guilt. just because you might be a douchebag doesn’t mean the rest of us are. lots of people stay married for 20 or 30 years without cheating on their wives with pornstars.

  • Howard

    I said in 2008, long before all his troubles began, that he would not break Nicklaus’ record. And not only did Jack win 18 majors, he finished 2nd about that many times (not sure of the exact #).

    • Tony Pesola

      wow are you great

  • RistyGolf

    Tiger has to let his swing evolve! Don’t keep making major swing changes, just adjustments to the knee,back,… His original swing has been memorized by his body & mind, & once the pattern has been set, trying to change it completely is like starting over as a completely different player. Check out what johnny Miller says about changing a golf swing. One last thought: I don’t know the specifics as to wht he & Butch Harmon don’t work together anymore, but Tiger should just apologize (assuming he’s @ fault) & get back together again with the one man that can correct his swing.

    • AarOnTheBox

      Why? Tiger’s best swing was under Haney. His broke Nelson’s scoring avarege record 3 times under Haney in 5 years, just once in the 5 years with Harmon. Tiger’s wining percentage was slightly better under Haney, major winning percentage only slight worse because of bad putting in the majors and mnot making the putts he made under Harmon…and all against competition that had caught up to his raised bar before he raised it again.
      Tiger under Haney in majors:
      2005 Masters – 1
      2005 US Open – Solo 2 (2 strokes back) – finished LAST in putting
      2005 Open – 1
      2005 PGA – 4 (2 strokes back) – finished 5 spots from last in putting
      2006 Masters – 3 (3 strokes back) – back nine on Sunday starting at 12 – missed a 10 footer for birdie – missed a 5 footer for eagle on 13, missed a 12 footer for birdie on 14, missed another 5 footer for eagle on 15, missed a 7 footer for birdie on 16, three-putted from 14 feet on 17 – And that is just that stretch of holes, and Williams said it was the only time he saw Tiger ever try too hard…because he knew he it was the last tournament his father would be alive for
      2006 US Open – MISSED CUT after his father died and having played not even practice golf
      2006 Open – 1
      2006 PGA – 1
      2007 Maters – 2 (2 strokes back)
      2007 US Open – 2 (1 stroke back)
      2007 Open – 12
      2007 PGA – 1
      2008 Masters – 2
      2008 US Open – 1
      2009 Maters – 6
      2009 US Open – 6
      2009 Open – Missed Cut
      2009 PGA – 2nd
      So, under Haney: 1-2-1-4-3-CUT-1-1-2-2-12-1-2-1-6-6-CUT-2
      He did all of that with a more wayward driver, against tougher competition and with erratic putting. You have NO idea what you are talking about.

  • Semper Fido

    Tell me I’m wrong here. I’m no golfer, but it seems to me he lost his mojo shortly after the incident with his wife, and all the women came out. Could that have been a serious distraction for him? Just wondering… Thanks.

  • Fantasy Maker

    You hit the nail right on the head. He will quit before hanging around an embarrassing himself like he did in Phoenix. He is now looking for ANY reason to not play/practice like chasing his snow bunny around the globe.
    I think Woods knows he is done and is not even motivated to try to get out of this funk. He will never win another major, doubtful he will win another PGA Tour event and 50/50 he will even make another cut.

  • The Yu

    Tiger is “playing” everyone, fans and foe. Think about it: If you, as such a high profiled public figure, ended up in such a scandal as he did, what would your next immediate steps be to earn back some kind of respect? Win more tournaments? I don’t think so… think about it and share your thoughts!

    • Jeff Sheaffer

      You may be right! Nobody will argue he made a huge impact on the world of golf! His slump in golf is better that most PGA stars..we can all agree with that ! HAs there ever been a more self centered famous athlete? Think about the impact he would have with inner city kids! Yet..he has always been a hide out person…most people say that is for security. But the same careful guy picks up a waitress at Denny’s ??!! Now…let’s say Phil Michelson did the same thing. He would be assaulted by the media! Yes..we all know Arnold Palmer was a huge skirt man…but yet the media to cover up that baggage .The true family man has always been Jack Nicklaus….he is a true role model and no baggage!

  • rob

    all players go through a time when they don’t win much. even jack had a spell when he wasn’t winning any majors. it’s almost inevitable. tiger and jack have won 3 to 4 times as much as most of
    the great players today will ever win in their entire careers. so just give tiger some time, it’ll come back to him. but he does need to stop over-analyzing everything. it’s a bit too much. it’s not too much of stretch to think, if he gets it back sometime soon, that it will be possible for him to reach 19 professional majors. time will tell.

    • justagolfer

      Dude…get your head out of the clouds and quit exaggerating…”3 to 4 times as many”???? Seriously??? You’ve got to go deep into the list of major winners before Tiger has 3 to 4 times more wins.

  • Jws

    Tiger should go back to hitting draws, swinging easier, and go back and make-up with Butch Harman. He is trying to sweep his chips, crazy approach. He needs to start playing every tournament he can to get his mojo back. Otherwise he is toast!

  • terry williams

    every golfer in WM tournament scored better than tiger……toothache i would surmise.

  • Les Schraeder

    What I have noticed is that Tiger struggles with his driver and does not putt nearly as well as he did when he was dominant. His confidence in Majors is not as great as when he won regularly. When all three are combined it is little wonder why he has not won a major in some time.



    • The Yu

      Wonder what skeletons you have in your closet? On second, I don’t want to know because who am I to judge anyone else. We are all human and prone to make mistakes even the most popular among us. One thing that counts against the popular ones among us is that they are constantly in the public eye. So get over it and move on dude!

  • Clambroth

    Here is the Actual # 1 reason. PGA tour mandatory drug testing policy implemented as of July 1, 2009. Tiger won his last major – US Open at Torrey Pines – in mid-June 2008. He had been playing with a stress fracture. Immediately after winning he announced he was taking off the balance of the entire 2008 season to recover. Not playing/can’t be tested. He was associated with the notorious Canadian steroid Doctor, Anthony Galea, who had been “treating” Alex Rodriguez, Marian Jones, Lance Armstrong among others. Majors since he returned to the tour = 0.

    • NottaChoker

      so 8 wins in 2 years, including the Players and a couple of WCs don’t show he can still win?

      Do they only PED test Majors?

      Are you as stupid as you type?

      • Clambroth

        So 8 wins and no majors. MAJORS – that was what the article and MY COMMENT was about. The once nearly unbeatable (up to mid-June 2008)Tiger OVERNIGHT fell back with the pack, and then some. Nobody said he wasn’t still a good golfer you douchebag. If we’re staying on topic I said why he won’t win another major. I don’t need your version of the tour stats. Do you always gratuitously insult those who have differing views of a subject than you? Seriously, you sound like a child. Now run along lil fellow.

        • NottaChoker

          hey twerp
          8 wins. Better than anyone else for that period… but he’s not good enough?
          oh wait, Tiger uses “Special PEDs” that don’t register during testing — UNLESS it is during a major, so that’s why he can’t win them.

          You are unbelievably stupid — did your parents have any children that lived?

          • Clambroth

            A week later you’re still here? Suffering from a bad case of lastwordsitis after you got smacked down? Special PED that he WAS using DO register. Apparently you weren’t able to comprehend the scientific stuff in the BALCO case. Once the anonymous samples were mailed to the FDA they figured out what was going on AND how to test for them. That was the big break through. Now that they know exactly how the formulations get tweaked so they don’t register on old tests they have devised a way to test for them. Of course, with a room temperature IQ it is understandable that you don’t understand the scientific “stuff”. However, just because you can’t sustain yourself in an argument you have to resort to insults and name calling. As I guessed earlier I was taking to a child. G’bye

        • haha

          So, everyone has to reach the end of his/her road..Tiger has reach his limited but we still love to watch him play..go on..Tiger

          • Clambroth

            I’ve always been a Tiger fan. However, I no longer enjoy watching him play or reading about him. He continues to drop out of tournaments at a pace that even nut case John Daly (with his monumental meltdowns) would be hard pressed to match. I can’t recall another golfer other than Daly who has dropped out of SO MANY tournaments and I’ve been following golf since the late 50’s. Seems that if he can’t be on the leader board he fakes yet another injury and drops out rather than be a middle of the pack grinder. He has become an albatross type distraction to the other players (and there ARE other players) on the tour. The throngs of people that follow him tend to be the Happy Gilmore gallery type yahoos. While he is good for attendance I question whether the Masters even wants him there this year. It has become an almost predictable scenario watching him in recent years. Has a bad nine holes and suddenly something hurts; he grimaces and winces and you know he’s getting ready to bail out again. I’d love to see him fight his way out of that “bad nine” rather than simply quit and walk away because he can’t win. It is no longer enjoyable seeing or reading about him. Yeah, I’d love to see him win too, but at this point…..?


    “Which is why it hurts me so much to realize that it’s all over.” <<< What a crock of shi*.

    Did anyone expect Ernie Els to win another major? How about Phil winning a British open? How about Darren Clark? One thing is for sure, Tiger is going to tee it up an MANY more majors. Another thing that's for sure is that Tiger will win more golf tournaments. He just has to win the right ones. I remember people writing Tiger off a couple years ago, and he won the Vardon Trophy in 2013, won 5 times and vaulted back to #1. Don't be surprised when he does it again. He'll be back. Once he plays himself back into competitive shape, which will take 4-6 months, he'll make another run.

    • justagolfer

      I assume you live in a state where marijuana is legal…because you must be smokin’ something…

      • c Riswold

        Couldn’t have said that better myself.

  • Mike Griffin

    He needs a head coach a lot more than a swing coach/consultant. Full article –

  • David-John

    Since Isleworth, some reasons are expired 😉 With his own swing again and hopefully good health, we can expect everything. It will be harder than everything he accomplished but who knows…

  • Ima Nemisis

    Scott, I predict you will be wrong at least four (4) more times as Tiger goes on to win as many in the nest 4 years….Crow tastes so good. Then you can pick what teeth you have left w/ a feather.

  • TruthSeeker

    Ever since Tiger crashed into that tree in front of his house, he has not been the same player. What that was symbolic of was the end of his apparent mind control, being the product (via, his military father) of mental and psychological programming since childhood. In other words, he now has the same self-doubts as every golfer and even the “yipps” on his chip shots as the past week at his own event has demonstrated. Mentally, which is where he once stood above everybody else in the golf world and had an unparalleled advantage, he now doesn’t, and in truth will NEVER be the same player he was because of that deficiency. The other factors, as pointed out in the article, are his age, health and a far more athletic and disciplined golf field than when he first came on tour.

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  • Frank

    I agree with everything in this article, except that I never say never. There is always this question of who is greater, Tiger or Jack. Right now, I would say it is a toss up. However, because of all of the obstacles mentioned, if He wins just one more major, I will say that Tiger is the greatest player to ever play- he may already be.

    • bastalready

      Odds are not in his favor but I agree with never say never.

    • Johninpa

      Regardless of majors, Jack will always be the greater golfer, as he exudes class. Tiger is classless, from his marital scandal to his behavior on the course.

  • schallb2157

    lets see he won 14 majors in 18 years and at 38 you say never again. Jack N. won 18 in all his life Jack also won 20 golf tournaments in his senior years of golf, and Tiger only needs 3 more to tie Jacks total. Envy is sooooooooooo green

    • justagolfer

      Let’s see schallb2157…Tiger won 14 in 18 years…NO…Tiger won them in 11 years from 1997 to 2008…2008 minus 1997 equals 11. Jack won 18 from 1962 until 1986…that isn’t his whole life…its just part of his career. And Mr. Math Wizard…if you add 3 to 14 you come up with…wait for it…wait for it…17…which Dr. Einstein is 1 less than 18. Was 3rd grade hard?

  • disqus_eEbPU3IGDU

    Tiger Woods by far the greatest player of all time in his prime? You can’t prove it by me. He won big for years largely because of his astounding putting, but once his putting declined around 2008, Woods faded fast. That tells me that he was something of a one-trick pony because he couldn’t win just on his long game, something Snead and Hogan and V.J. Singh could do.

  • coochicoo

    On the bright side, Tiger has about a dozen years to get his back fixed in time to join the senior tour…

  • Steve Cooper

    “Scott….your reasoning on the subject is, in my opinion, totally valid. Tiger has been a great phenom in the game, and we have been lucky enough to experience all his amazing accomplishments. Here comes the “BUT!”. After roughly 15 years on tour, Tiger has discovered something that I wish he had not! That “something” is that the game is DIFFICULT!. He can try hundreds of swing teachers, but nothing will change. Maybe he has chatted with “Bob Rotella” or someone of his ilk. This approach should help, but for many of the reasons that you mentioned, his “comeback” will be luke warm at best”. Steve (Golf Instructor and Historian)”.

  • David John Wicks

    The man is a legend Jack never played against 150 in each Major more like 12 good players

    • disqus_eEbPU3IGDU

      Woods hardly ever competed against any legitimate stars in any of the majors he won.

      • David John Wicks

        Complete nonsense

      • David John Wicks

        Jack said Tiger was the best golfer ever

        • timbo

          That would be because Nicklaus is a classy guy who epitomizes everything that Woods is not. After he miraculously beat Greg Norman in the masters at age 46 the first thing he did afterwards was to go up to Norman and tell him that he believed in him and felt he had the game to take the tournament out himself. Just a wonderful player and an individual who knew what old-fashioned sportsmanship was all about.

  • Mike Griffin

    I think he wins majors again, but doesn’t catch Jack. Problem not in swing, but between the ears – Full article

  • Golfer Frank

    What a bunch of garbage designed to get click thru’s. Great example of lousy journalism driven to sensationalism to drive revenue, Tiger is slumping but to say NEVER is just plain stupid. I hope you write an apology when Tiger wins at Augusta again.

    • buch

      tissue or towel?

  • Jose C Castro

    A man has only two chances of being absolutely righ! When he believes HE CAN, and when he believes HE CANNOT!. I am part of the group that believes HE CAN! If TIGER is joining our group he will come back soon for sure!

  • fromperpig

    Wow, Scott, what a bold stretch! Especially when every guy with a laptop in the western world has taken a cheap shot at an injured player who hasn’t competed since mid August. You’re a writer because you don’t have the rocks to compete with the very best in the world for 20 years and still be recognized, rece

  • lewisgl52

    Nice article. I think Tiger is certainly capable of winning another major if he is good enough physically, but it isn’t going to be nearly as easy now as it was 10 years ago. As you said, confidence, physical issues and strength of field are working against him big time and every major that gets by him reduces that confidence a little more probably. He seems to have a lot more going on between the ears now than he did when he was winning majors and that is not a good thing.

  • five dollar

    so if you are the senior editor, and Ted Bishop just got fired for calling Ian Poulter a ‘lil girl’ why are you making offensive and inappropriate comments about the Indian and the arrow?

  • larry

    Tigers past has finally caught up to him and I am happy about all that as you can say all you want about his golf expertise which no one can argue but the lies, cheating etc. that this guy has done has put a very big black mark after his name and he also almost destroyed the integrity of this great game. He is a winning LOSER!

  • Steve

    I can guarantee you that Tiger Woods is going to break Jack’s record. Tiger has a number of years ahead of him and to think he won’t do it is as ridiculous as thinking Rory will even come close to Tiger’s accomplishments.

    Rory even admitted that had it not been for golf, he’d still be a virgin. Take a look in the gallery and watch the women that are willing to throw themselves at these WEALTHY, YOUNG, athletes. I maintain that Tiger, with the death of his dad, cracked emotionally (his dad was such an integral part of his life)…and he went into a tailspin brought on by depression. But, as a previous writer pointed out…..virtually EVERY single TOP RANKED golfer cheated on their wives. Lee Trevino was one of the worst!

    One final comment here. If you want someone to blame for Tiger’s profanity being broadcast…..How about putting it where it belongs…..on the NETWORK! They are the ones that shove that microphone close enough to catch the sound of a fart. I won’t mention the golfers name….but I was Marshalling at a Major Tournament here in MN… of the pro’s had a hard time with a particular hole two days in a row…..As he walked off the green, he was mumbling to himself…..”If I never see this f**king G***amned hole again…I’ll be f**king happy”….. he continued like that til he got to the next tee. You know why you didn’t hear it? Because he didn’t have a microphone shoved in his ‘space’……..So, you tired of hearing someone use that kind of language? Turn the sound down.

    • bob

      I do not understand your irrational thinking on the subject of cursing. If that golfer you’re talking about was making millions and millions of dollars and was a top tier golfer then if he’s a decent man, unlike TW, he would be a better role model and not curse like a sailor knowing that his status in the game means plenty of camera and microphone time!

  • Andrew

    For me, golf isn’t the same without Tiger in the field, and in contention. That said, it is a rough go to handle all the stress he has brought upon himself, not to mention the everyday stress that a super celeb must go through in everyday life. I really believe that Tiger can win many more majors simply by living simply. I believe he needs to get back to appreciating the smell of the grass in the morning, and trusting his God given talent. He is a man who knows how to play, and win. He needs to drop the methodical, and start just enjoying what we hackers never take for granted, a day in the sun playing the game we enjoy so much. Isn’t fun the point of the game? If Tiger can win five times in a post 2009 season, just think what he can do when golf is fun again.

    • Marine1

      Steve, tiger Woods is a good golfer, but he doesn’t compare to the past Legends of yore. If it hadn’t been for all the media fan fare of eulogizing him as if he were the savor himself. Seems the media and tour officials did whatever they could to build him to make everyone else back off. Why is he the only one you see when watching a tournament he is in, its almost as if the rest of the field is an after thought, but there are many pro golfers who deserve the same coverage. He will never beat Jack’s record. As for all pro’s cheating on their wives, I don’t think so, most or all could have had the opportunity, but didn’t do it. Don’t you think you’d hear about it, those things can’t be hidden any more with all the social media.

  • Golfer

    Not a great article. Too many inaccuracies.

  • Nils

    I have never been much of a Tiger fan, mostly due to his behaviour on the course. His behaviour off the course is of no interest to me as long as he doesn`t do anything illegal. Noone can imagine what it is like to be Tiger and so I don`t really care to judge him. Having said that, he has been an awesome golfer. I have followed his career since he was 16, and never seen determination like his. His mental abilities were unparalleled. He has been an enormous boost to the game of golf, evidence is readily available. I think he may win another major, he does have the game to do that. But it seems to me that when the scandal came out, his mental toughness disappeared. It became impossible for him to regain his 100% focus on the game. So I fear we will never again see the amazing Tiger Woods on the course again. And I do not believe he will surpass Nicklaus as far as majors are concerned. But I wouldn`t mind another few displays of great golf from the man I believe has played the best golf the world has ever seen.

    • Ben


      Lost his health
      Lost his desire (admitted he watched more of the FIFA versus the US Open)
      Lost his purpose
      Lost his family
      Lost his place of greatness

      It has to be agonizing looking up at the place he once sat and wondering how it was all taken away so fast!

      I don’t think he will ever win another major. It’s over.

      But that being said, he can work on being the best father to his child, growing his charitable foundation etc. and that will mean a lot more than another major (in the long run).

      • Michael Sherman

        This I agree with. Unfortunately all the dirty deeds caught up with him and became public. No one can tell me that didn’t wreck him to his core. There he was NUMBER ONE in the world them “BAM”. Yes, he brought it on himself but damage done. Age plus injuries don’t mix well. Any part torn and damaged will result into ‘scar tissue”, which will never be the same again. You can adapt but it’s very hard at his level to play with others who are not damaged. So to me the biggies are his mental state, age, and damage to his body. I really do wish he could win more but in real life, it’s not going to work. Believe it or not, I do like Tiger the golfer. I just wish he would have made better life choices off the course.

  • dave

    Tiger IS a nice person. It really was a vindictive part of the media that destroyed his image. Who after being attacked with a golf club would protect a women and end up with a divorce settlement against him in the millions.Nobody knows all the rest of the story. As far as his swing goes, to me Tiger always seemed to be a hitter. That implies he could never achieve the distances that a swinger is capable of reaching. Still he was extremely long, and extremely accurate. Now he is more of a swinger, and for that reason he is hitting longer than ever but his accuracy has suffered. Even his ball contact is bad when he goes after his long fairway woods.Will he ever win again? If he becomes healthy again and certain media jerks get off his back, YES! It’s a long shot of course as we all know. Remember Mickey Wright who after returning to golf never could regain dominance.But if anyone can do the improbable, it will likely be Tiger.

    • ted

      Sorry, Tiger is not a nice person. He’s notoriously disliked on the tour by his peers. He openly screams obscenities when he hits bad shots on national TV. He cheated on his wife constantly. He cheated at golf by using performance enhancing drugs.

      Not even close to being a nice guy.

      • Steve

        Ted, you’re an ASS and there is no debate! You’re so wrong, so judgemental…..It’s pathetic. Tiger Woods has done more to improve the world than you’ve ever even dreamt about. Your statement about the “other” players disliking him could not be further from the truth. They ALL know just how much impact Tiger has had on the game for each of them. Take a look at the top money winners of the PGA this year……..the 75th man in line……still made a MILLION. That isn’t because YOU play the game you moron!

      • larry

        Also, he is one of the cheapest on tour

  • duckhook

    Could someone explain to me why if your only half black, you are referred to as black.That being said how can you break down barriers for blacks if your not truly black. Back on subject i wish tiger would quit counting so much on these coachs. It seems to me he knows what works and what doesnt i think he should dump them all.

  • Bob Gallagher

    Tiger’s swing is like Michael Jackson’s nose. The more it’s tinkered with, the uglier it gets

    • matteo

      thats a good one

  • Vince

    I hope Woods never wins another Major. He turned out to be a terrible role model. I don’t allow my kids to watch golf tournaments on TV that he has entered. Nicklaus was and still is a GREAT role model and Woods used to be, but he never will be again. All Tiger Woods items have been thrown away. Jack Nicklaus is who my children loo up to now.

    • Mavenah

      Oh for goodness sake, golf is the man’s game, not trying to be everybody’s kids role model. The parents are the role models and if they leave it up to some celebrity to be thier kids’ role model, that leaves something to say about the kind of parents they are and that’s not very much.

    • Frank

      You may want to do a bit more research on this. Jack had at LEAST 2 affairs while married to Barbara and Palmer was as big a womanizer as Tiger…..Even good old Watson had his share of side women. The information is out there if you care to look…Me? I am a 6 handicap and the ONLY time I watch is when Tiger plays…Watching golf is absolutely BORING!

      • Scott

        Wow Frank! Where did you “dig up” that load of crap!!! I have worked for Mr. Palmer and would consider myself an authority on the life of Mr. Nicklaus. Neither one of these gentlemen EVER even thought of cheating on their wives. People like you need to be slapped with a defamation law suit for maliciously spreading complete lies about these awesome role models. You are a complete A-hole!!!

    • Mike

      Grow up Vince.

    • Rod

      U r a douche.

  • Rich Holl

    A wonderful debate. Scott Peceny should be congratulated; it is a journalist’s job to stimulate discussion about a particular subject. Clearly, he has succeeded with his article about Tiger.

    I am a fan of Tiger Woods. I saw Jack Nicklaus play in the 1960s and 1970s, but at his best Tiger was better. Who can forget his stinger shot with the one iron or those magisterial three irons which had such awe-inspiring height, distance, and accuracy? Nobody has ever hit shots like that. Tiger is an artist on the golf course.

    Will he ever win another major? My guess is that he will. He is now resting and performing exercises to strenthen his core after his back operation. He has parted way with Sean Foley. He will surely find a new swing that eases the stress on his back. Tiger can re-tool his swing one last time. Then he will start to win again and a major will come. Augusta National is the place.

    Is Tiger a nice person? The evidence says no. That, however, is not the point. He is a golfing virtuoso who is fascinating to follow whether he is in form or not.

    It is a long shot that Tiger will catch Jack in the majors category. A person would be foolish to ignore Woods’ age and physical woes. He probably won’t get to 18. But he will beat Sam Snead’s record for most PGA wins in a career and will go down as one of the two greatest golfers ever. Scott has written a great article, but that young pup is off base–we will see Tiger in the winner’s circle at a major again and it will be glorious!

    • Matt

      well said, I agree do not count him out, he just needs the proper time off, to re-tool, I would really like to see him do it.


      • dave

        Tiger will be back. Form is temporary, class is permanent.The other golfers are yet to find that out.

        • Scott

          Dave, the problem here is that Tiger lacks class. If you were to do just a little research, you would realize that Tiger shouldn’t be included in the top 3 golfers of all time based on overall records. He has an all or nothing record in majors. Compare this to Mr. Nicklaus who finished 2nd 19 times and 3rd another 10 in addition to his 18 major wins. How many 2nds and 3rds does Tiger have?

          • KT

            He has 6 of them:
            – 2002 PGA Championship
            – 2005 U.S. Open
            – 2007 Masters (tied with Retief Goosen, and Rory Sabbatini)
            – 2007 U.S. Open (tied with Jim Furyk)
            – 2008 Masters
            – 2009 PGA Championship.

          • KT

            In fact here’s his top ten stats in majors:

            At the end of the 2011 season he had 35 top ten finishes:
            – 14 first place finishes
            – 6 second place finishes
            – 3 third place finishes
            – 5 fourth place finishes
            – 1 fifth place finish
            – 2 sixth place finishes
            – 1 seventh
            – 1 eighth
            – 1 ninth
            – 1 tenth

  • Front Row Tickets

    Sadly, in my opinion, is seems like Tiger may have ruined himself with steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. He would have easily been the best ever without any debate if he just stayed clean. Now the injuries are stacking up, which is the normal result from steroid use. He was skinny when he won that first masters. He didn’t need that junk. But the lure of being that much better proved too much for him.

    I hope he gets clean, healthy, and regains his form. He’s so much fun to watch when he’s at the top of his game.

    When he was at his best, he was the best of all time.

    • Jane

      The reason that Tiger Wood lost his game was because he was screwing around and acting more like a coddled movie star than an athlete. Well, a good athlete anyway. He destroyed his family, he was sleeping around and that’s the problem. Forget the putts and whatever, he fell in love with himself and he believed all those hangers on who disappeared as soon as he started slowing down. He had a good family, a good life, and he threw it away.

      • pete

        typical woman response. look at Tiger’s record on the course – not intercourse. I predict he will have a great season next year and he will have a lot of supporters!

        • Ben

          14 Majors and 14 girls ( and all of them A – class)

          He needs only 5 more girls = 5 majors. Not that hard I guess….

    • Frank

      You have evidence of steroid use?????Please link to facts – I’d like to see them.Otherwise quit with the slander :0

      • Scott

        Frank, how about you quit with the slander about Mr.’s Palmer and Nicklaus!!! People like you need to just shut up!!

  • Col Mosby

    Tiger “revolutionized the game” ? Get real. The problem with young journalists is that they think everything began and ended with their generation. A case of severe nearsightedness. Ben Hogan can be said to be one who revolutionized the game, hitting shots Tiger can only fantasize about. And he did it for much longer than a prematurely worn out Tiger has been alive. Bobby Jones would be another revolutionary golfer – he won, on a part time basis , practicing probably 1 percent of the time Tiger practices, 13 of his last 20 championships. Age-wise, Jones was just entering his peak playing years. No one will ever come close to what Jones did and no one since Jones has won the four majors he did in their lifetime, much less all in one year. And no one ever will, in my opinion.

    • Frank

      Ah…way to cite the two most racist figures ever in the game of golf….You are right of course, both of these gents were great but you are a wee bit off in you assertion…the numbers don’t lie my friend – and Tiger I’m afraid played against much deeper fields. Oh and by the way – no one ever redesigned courses because of those gents – that only started after Tiger was making even the toughest courses Drive, Chip, and Putt birdie festivals.

      • Matt

        true well said

    • Scott

      Col. Mosby, WELL SAID SIR!!!

  • Doc Haley

    Well I can’t take anything away from what he has accomplished but i can agree with the writer of this article that he, Tiger, will not win another major except by luck, and even that presents a huge problem. Is there that much luck left in Tiger?
    Golf is a game based entirely on Ethics. Ask any pro. It’s the number one thing golf remains to present to all it’s players, good and bad. Ethics. Do you play by the rules, do you score honestly, do you improve your lie without taking a penalty stroke, do you putt till you are in the cup?
    Golf is a game played by yourself and the golf course. No one else can play for or against you. You either win or lose all on your own and Ethics is a big part of it. No other sport offers this.
    He’s lost his ethics, his pride, his professionalism. I believe he may have thought everyone would forgive ‘Tiger’ for anything. Not so.
    Jack Nicholas will probably not be overtaken in my life. I have about 20 to 25 years left if I live a good long life. No one is near Tiger either. He will probably be number 2 for that same period of time.
    Whomever beats Jack’s major wins will be an Ethical person and golfer. Or I hope they are.
    Doc Haley
    FORE! Play
    Golf Smithing

    • Jeff H

      A cheat on and off the course. About time he hangs it up and disappears. Good riddance

  • FeedUp

    And, you’re full of dumbass! Said that in my best Red Foreman’s voice 😀

    I thought McIlroy might amount to something, but after seeing childish behavior on display after playing with the Big Baby Bubba, who throws little hissy fits to get media attention… nah

    “up with the sun, gone with the wind”

  • Jat

    He’s Done! After shaming his family as well as his self, he won”t be back!!!!!!!

    • David John Wicks

      Tiger woods had other women just like millions of other people including US Presidents

  • Alex

    I don’t agree while I do Play golf, and Love to watch it, you gave us just as many reasons why he can win , and win big. But not on a regular basis, it’s true the field is very competitive, and anyone can win, that includes Tiger woods, and all he has to do is show up, while most golfers play injured and never say anything, yes most golfers have some aliment , even us duffers. He’s just under the Microscope. another thing the confidence thing is a mental thing. How many times has one thing happen in all of us, that made us say , really I’ll show you, and we all raised to the moment …. Golf is funny, not always the best win, and the worse lose, … any time any golfer shows up.. he gives him self a chance to win. and as for the haters of athletes because personal matters, watch the sport and the stats. I don’t care what any of them do, There not my role Models … there athletes, thats all they are.

  • Larry

    Does anyone really care about what this clown does? He has marred the game of golf with all his antics and now his ailments…..”ALLEGED”…….have taken over. His legacy will not be golf!!!!

    • Mavenah

      Marred the game? don’t be rediculous

    • dixiehummingbird

      Yeah! We care about this man and hope he can make another comeback! He is no one’s role model. Get your own or be your own. Marred this game? I don’t think so. This game was marred from the start with petulant behavior from many of its players including Stenson tearing up a locker room about which you hear nothing. When someone has poor behavior from Stenson breaking a club on his thigh to Sergio Garcia spitting in the cup, you hear it one time and never again. When Tiger has any indiscretion one can never hear the end of it. Ask the New York post where they chose to cover their paper 19 times with his story. I never once heard him promise that he was a moral icon. Seems just like a game of gotcha to me. I dare say, if you put the camera up everybody’s ??? you would find despicable behavior every. Judge this man only by his golf; there is so much speculation he had a good life, he threw it away; etc. People get divorced everyday and continue to have a good life. If you followed the life of “most” pro athletes in golf, football, baseball, etc., you could hear Tiger’s story everyday. Get a life and extend good wishes to someone who truly did revolutionize the game. He is etched in the history of this game and he is not done yet.



    • Sid

      Oh Larry if only everyone was just as perfect as you. What will you say when you find out all those Republitards you idolize so much also slept with so many different women? I guess it will be okay since they are all white, and you will forgive them for their transgressions. Woods only marred his own name, not the game of golf. No one player will ever be bigger than the game. Time takes care of that, as people eventually forget.

      • Larry

        No, I am not perfect and never claimed to be and I don’t get the political side of your stupid comment and my association with the Republican party. You are right, No One will ever be bigger than the game so why don’t you write Tiger and tell him that and while you are at it put a note to Kobe Bryant stating the same. Tiger has cheated the game and that has been well documented just ask anyone that watched the Masters as for one. Nice chatting with you SID and hope your president can find work after he leaves office as you sound like a true Democratic lover. By the way, some things can’t be forgotten Sid, like December 7 1941 and September 11, 2001. Have a great 2015 Sid as 2016 will be a great year regardless who gets in.

        • Larrys Daddy

          You are just a little keyboard warrior arent you? Leave it to larry to turn something such as Tigers golf game to a political argument. Youre on the wrong site larry. Go circle jerk with your rich white friends and hop off..

          • Larry

            Oh here comes the racial crap again. Go find something else to hide behind besides the color of your skin L D

  • John

    I agree totally but you forgot reason number seven: he wants it too much.

    When winning came naturally to Woods, the majors stacked up with ease. That’s all changed now – his confidence has taken a knock and I doubt if he has the necessary character to get back to the level he was at in his prime. For my money, McIlroy is a better player and more likely to surpass Nicklaus’ record. He’s longer than Woods, hits the ball higher and, unlike Woods, can hit a driver. As for character, McIlroy had the crushing disappointment of throwing away a major early in his career. It would have finished a lesser player – Jean Van De Velde springs to mind – but McIlroy went on to win his very next major by a street. True, he isn’t as good a pressure putter as Woods once was but he’s good enough and has time to get better. Three majors and counting…

    • Bubby

      Sorry, but Mcllroy is like a lot of other good players on tour, but he is no Tiger Woods. He will be on top for a while then fade into oblivion. To me Rory is actually extremely boring to watch, not to mention his attitude. He acts like when he misses a putt or makes any other bad shot, it’s a big shock and somehow not his fault. And on Sunday when Kirk chipped in for a birdy, he acted aggrevated, like Chris had taken away his lime light. He just slumped around the green with a pouty look, which he does a lot, as if to say, “so what Chris, YOU’RE not the great Mcllroy”! He may win a few more tournaments but he won’t come close to Tigers records, much less Jacks. Even though I hate to see Tiger lose, I would rather watch him lose then to watch RORRRY win. Even when Rory isn’t SLUMPING, his attitude makes it look like he is. Tiger may (or may not) ever get back to his past greatness but HE WILL get back to winning!!! IMHO!

      • David John Wicks

        Well said Bubby

    • GolfBags

      @John, You might want to re-count, Rory has four majors.

    • Larry

      McElroy is playing in way tougher competition than Tiger did when he started but I think that Jordan Spieth is the one to watch.

  • hybrid80

    All Tiger has to do, – is to stop trying to follow the ball down the target line, under the illusion that that will straighten out his tee shots. The wilder the shots the harder he pursues this illusion, which only makes it worse, and busts his back to boot.. Stay on plane after impact Tiger, and get back to form. Just my opinion.

  • Pogi Lisyus

    He will win at least two more least. Now that he is concentrating only playing 18 “HOLES”. No more after that. :-).. but then again, he was winning more when he played the 19th, 20th…etc holes..:-)


    Didn’t he just win five times last season? He injured. That’s all – He will be back

    • Larry

      Last season? go forward idiot not backwards

  • Mad-Mex

    Nice article until you mentioned the color of his skin and the incredibly racist jabs at “rich white” and at Augusta saying they were trying to keep him from winning, think other golfers played the same course,thus it prevented OTHERS from winning,,,,, just wondering, what did that add to the content of the article? NOTHING,,,, and yes, I am Mad and I am Mexican,,,,

    • Frank

      Well it’s true…every bit of it…you like a lot of others would rather history be written without all the gory details….Race was and is a factor in EVERYDAY life brotha….

  • Stive

    Well he didn’t fire Butch to switch to Foley. He fired Butch to switch to Hank. He needs Butch back.

    • dixiehummingbird

      No he doesn’t! He can make decisions for himself. If he does need another pair of eyes, he is perfectly capable of deciding who he wants to work with and needs no advice from anyone.

  • nugh tyer

    Health is the most critical element over and above everything else. Without health, there’s not much anyone can do. If Tiger is able to get healthy again the rest of all the other problems he is or might be facing will eventually fall away. He still has time. Give the back problem proper time to heal and come back and do it for yourself Tiger.

    • Scott

      I spent 16 years as a PGA teaching professional. Since Tiger came on the scene, I have told anyone that would listen that Tiger’s swing is too violent and fast. There is too much torque being applied to the back which can not take that kind of abuse. I said 15 years ago that Tiger would be done by age 35 winning majors and also would experience alot of back problems. This is just my observations as a golf professional that spent many years teaching the golf swing.

  • Woodsy owl

    never say never

  • tryscavage

    There is a REAL reason why Tiger is not playing now and may not play in any competition in the future. Many think of this reason but are afraid to say it.

  • Jimmy G

    In his game today all six reasons have some credibility, however we are still talking about Tiger and his personality and aggressive style will not allow him at his age to sit on the sidelines. If he can get his back in form he can still be as good as anybody on the tour. I would not bet a lot of money that Tiger Woods will never win another major.

  • Steven Bronstein

    Totally disagree with you bro, Tiger can still win another major, he just needs to let his back heal and rehab it properly.

  • Pingman 2.0

    This is your typical “Click Bait” article that rehashes so many old chestnuts, it is hard to count em. I will address one: Tiger Proofing

    1) “Tiger Proofing” was a catch phrase invented by Tim Rosaforte in 1997 after Tiger’s brilliant win at the Masters that year. ( Should have copy-written the thing Tim) The common interpretation (one that still sticks), is the racial one which we have here, namely that Augusta National is owned by Dixie bigots who hated the fact that Tiger was more or less African American, and so set about to thwart him.

    The facts speak otherwise. The Master committee didn’t touch the course until 2002. So they didn’t seem to be in much of a hurry to “Tiger proof” anything. Why 2002? It wasn’t Tiger, it was everyone. The tech was changing by the month and now Titleist and Nike were engaged in a ball race.

    In 1997 if your average drive was 280 yards you were in the PGA top 10. By 2002, a 280 yard drive average was only good for #100th place.

    All courses including Augusta National responded. The length helped Tiger rather than hurt him.

    Nick Faldo who won three Green Jackets in the 90s, was doomed because his average drive at the Masters was 267 yards. Tiger averaged 323 yards, the year of his 97 win. The course in an attempt to stay relevant, actually was very effective in “Faldo Proofing” the course and Nick was smart enough to hang em up.

    The fact that Tiger won half of his Masters after the course changes started, is dismissed in the article. Listen up Scott. The course played tougher no doubt, but the track is the same for everyone, and although the field scores were higher, Tiger was still the best.

    If they truly wanted to “Tiger Proof” their course,they could have left the length alone, grown the rough to 4+ inches, and narrowed the fairways to 22 yards. That would have addressed weaknesses in Tiger’s game. They would have created a shot makers course for the likes of Faldo & Co. BUT They didn’t. The Members wouldn’t stand for either narrow fairways or deep rough

    The reality ? Tim Rosaforte wrote a clever phrase in 1997, and the Tiger fans did the rest to perpetrate the myth.

    • John

      Great response. The powers that be within the game seem incapable of working out the simple math – adding length to golf courses only plays into the hands of the long hitters. Golf is about so much more than power – clearly these people have never heard the expression: “Drive for show, putt for dough”. Shorten the courses and trick them up – that way you let the guys with the all-round game and a bit of imagination compete. In a different era, Jim Furyk – wonky swing and all – would have won far more majors than the one he has at the moment. Even bona-fide geniuses like Trevino and Seve would struggle today.

    • GolfBags

      Great points Pingman, one thing on the Augusta rough though, had they chosen to grow it like you suggested, it would only be for the tournament, within two-three weeks they would gradually lower it back to the ‘members level.’

    • Scott

      You hit it right on!!

  • yearnd

    professional tour golf or any match at the muny is a great test of just what is inside of your heart, your head, your gut. Tiger will be OK on the course when he likes the man that he sees in the mirror. I really do not think that his soul has recovered from the mess he made of his family and his marriage. I think that Earl’s son has lost his self respect. I think that he down deep questions weather or not he wants to stand alone on that stage again. When he figures that out he probally has the golf IQ to deal with the rest. I am not suprised by the back problems,, as I have found out twice myself when you hurt a knee and then try to compensate for it you can get your whole body out of line and stress related injury often will follow. Next will be a hip in about 15 years. So I will go with number 3 on the list as his main problem,, unfortunitly the man who could help him with this problem Earl,, is not available. I like Tiger’s brain though and I will bet on him to find his way. There are some things more important than Majors.

    • Pingman 2.0

      I disagree. I think Tiger has worked through those problems. He looks fairly happy in his skin these days. I am afraid that Tiger’s problems are not self esteem. They are a physical degeneration of his body after violently addressing a golf ball several million times since he was 2.

      The greatest players of all time have about 20 years to make their mark. A few like Jack and Snead lasted longer, many lasted less than 20 years. It is a younger mans game, that is why about 9 out of 10 Major winners are in their 20s and 30s. And the greatest players of all time averaged 12 years between their first and last MAJOR.

      • Scott

        24 years between Jack’s first and his last, 1962 and 1986.

  • carl

    he didn’t sack Butch Harmon for Sean Foley, he sacked Butch Harmon for Hank Haney, then sacked Haney for Foley………. he should go back to Butch IMHO

    • Pingman 2.0

      Not going to happen Carl. Butch said as much last week, after the Tiger camp started the rumour. The media has got the message and the story disappeared.

      Fact is Tiger has won a lot of tournaments with different coaches. He even won some when he was between coaches if I am not mistaken. His issues are not caused by a bad swing. A bad swing is caused by a bad back. Fix the back, and he will be fine.

  • Neville Bru

    Scott… You are talking a little bit of tiny bollocks here mate… How many players won 5 times last year? How many won 5 PGA tournaments in on year in the last 5 years? To think he will not win another might be a bit silly old sport!

  • Raffaele Zuiccaro

    When Tiger was winning everything, he had something going on the side- in many hotel rooms , and practicing “partners’ that perked him up a bit??? Maybe he should start that practicing again– You think???

  • carlricker

    Statistically speaking, Scott is absolutely correct. However, with all due respect to his astute evaluation, he forgot the one ingredient so essential to greatness and what it is that makes ‘greatness’ – the same stuff that makes champions- that which differentiates! While there have been many, the first guy that comes to mind is Ben Hogan who, between the years of 1938 through 1959, won 63 professional golf tournaments despite his career being interrupted in its prime at age 36 by World War II and a near-fatal car accident that left him with a double-fracture of the pelvis, a fractured collar bone, a left ankle fracture, a chipped rib, and near-fatal blood clots in addition to circulation problems and other physical limitations.

    The question is; is Tiger made of this stuff? I think so and wish to alert the world – get ready!! We’re about to witness one of the greatest come-backs ever seen in the history of golf!!

    • Scott

      Not going to happen my friend!


    Who writes this crap? Did we think Darren Clark would win The Open? Who would have thought Phil had the trajectory to win an Open Championship? Did we think Els would win another? Tiger has to get healthy. Once he does that, he has another few wins in his game for sure – Who’s to say he can’t win a major. He just won FIVE time LAST YEAR. To say he cannot or will not win another major is nonsense.

    • Bill Gregory

      I believe Tiger would benefit at the majors if he played more regular events during the year. Clarke, Mickelson and Els still play in excess of 20 events on the PGA, European or other tours (Els played 34 times last year). Practice is great but there’s nothing like live competition to keep the mental/physical aspects sharp. Just my opinion…

  • Garrett K

    His swing is the main and only problem here. Once he gets his old swing back, then the confidence will follow along with a Major. Go see Butch Harmon or Jimmy Ballard.

  • yoyodeeyo

    Tiger at his worst is still better than almost every pro golfer at his best.

    • pz2b

      Well….. Tiger is at his worst AND it would appear that several golfers, not the least a young man by the name of Rory are proving you very wrong.

      • James Muriithi

        His worst lands him at No. 11 on the PGA tour. Your comment insinuates that Rory’s exploits in the past couple of months eclispe all that Tiger has ever achieved. Take a balanced view sir!

        • John

          Your comment is nonsense, James. His position in the world rankings is due to the excellent season he had last year, not his recent form. On points gained (6.57), you have to go down to 136th place to find someone scoring less. To further put that into context, Rory McIlroy gained 467.34 points over the same period.

          This blind devotion to Woods is touching but slightly baffling. Woods has never had any time for anyone except himself. Over the years, he has insulted, swore at and ignored fans. He has brought the game into disrepute more times than any other golfer I can think of. He’s lied and cheated (on the course and off) and only ever seems to smile when things are going his way. A great golfer he may have been but a great human being he is not and that is the mark of a true great.

          • dixiehummingbird

            Nobody is a great human being. Close the door and you would be very surprised at what you find from any of them. No one here really knows Tiger; I don’t know Tiger but I do know that when he is at work he is serious and focused. Saw him at the Deutsche Bank twice and Bethpage Black. Couldn’t get near him because of armed security. I don’t see such great camaraderie from any golfer when he is on the course. Who said he had to be skinning and grinning all the time? I think he is a human being and that is all that is required. We come to watch him play golf. That is all we get from him. When a man receives hundreds of death threats (over a stupid game) everyday, when his safety is a major concern (ask Monica Seles), when he has to pay thousands for security everywhere he goes, when he has a camera up his ??? and the inability to go to the bathroom (without it being reported), when one’s life is lived under a microscope, etc. Try living under those conditions and tell me how it feels. He has drawn a billion dollars from on and off the course pursuits; he has beautiful children; I guess that would make a few people envious and cause them to say things that help them feel elevated over him. Waiting for your comeback Tiger! Go Tiger!!!!

      • yoyodeeyo

        @pz2b Well, actually you’re right. But my intention is that if he comes back, even with a couple of wins next year he’ll be back as #1. I know his glory days are over but he still MAY have quite a few wins in him. And I don’t see Rory ever catching his overall win record. Oops, now I’m sounding the the author of the article.

  • Niedermeier

    This story was written by a complete idiot with absolutely ZERO knowledge of golf! I can’t believe someone actually employs him to write such nonsense!

    No surprise that this young fool chooses to turn it into his rose-colored view of “political correctness”. It’s the current “mood” of the media: inject their intolerant rules of “Political Correctness” into a story whether it makes sense or not. Pure laziness and I guess they think it covers up the incompetence of the writer.

  • Sahil Singh

    Those are the 6 reason why he WILL more majors.

  • jdog

    I don’t think Tiger or Barak are black. They are however multi-racial.

    • BETH

      who are you to make such dumb asinine statements?. Who cares what you think?. You need to stop and think before you make stupid statements…it’s insulting..

      • Scott

        Beth, jdog is absolutely spot on!! Barak’s mother is white making him half black/half white….multi-racial. Tiger’s mother is from Tailand, so he is half Asian, half African American, again…..multi-racial. Get a clue!!!

    • jimmy k

      I have to agree, and did anyone forget he had a mother of a different race, and she is non relavent, its the typical r-card, I think he should go by her color and race! Hows that treat you, Mother are still a big factor and he is half her too…………

  • Darryn

    Man, this article almost made me cry :'(

    • Scott Peceny

      Almost cried writing it Darryn

      • Bill

        Good article, Scott. Permit me to add this thought to the conversation that I haven’t noticed anyone else picked up on: I’ve had the unbelievable good fortune to play and watch golf since I was 12 years old in 1961. Therefore, I have seen Nicklaus and Woods, and the fields against which they competed, in their primes. I have to agree with your observation that when Woods was in his prime and was playing well in a major tournament, the field basically conceded the trophy to him. Not so when Nicklaus was in his prime. Thus, Nicklaus competed in his prime against men who are among the greatest who ever played: Palmer, Player, Watson, Trevino, Casper, Ballesteros, Norman and many lesser lights but nevertheless excellent golfers. Woods had no such company. Michelson, Faldo, Singh and Norman simply aren’t in the upper echelon of golfing greats, good as they are. Further, perhaps due to the lack of greats against whom he competed, Woods basically dialed it in if he wasn’t in the lead of a major after the 3rd round. In fact, I don’t think he ever came from behind to win one Hence, far fewer second placed finishes in majors than Nicklaus, too. In short, having seen both men in their primes, I would still go with Nicklaus as the greatest of all time even if Woods somehow manages to win 4 more majors. Or even 5. As for sheer brilliance with the sticks, Nicklaus ability to hit a 2 iron high and soft and long is still unequaled. Of course, that said, I marvel at the fact that Bobby Jones is supposed to have been able to hit a drive 300 yards with the equipment of his era if he wanted to. From my limited experience with such equipment, that strikes me as near supernatural ability.

        • Scott

          Bill, I couldn’t agree with you more in this comparison!! Facts are facts and you can’t argue about them.

  • Vincent Mcelroy

    If it wasn’t for a couple of lucky shots Jack would have won 4 more majors! He was runner up in 19 no one not even Tiger has played great golf as consistently as Jack! Not even close!

    • Scott

      Third another 10 times!!

  • gm5425

    We have seen the best goler ever and he is Tiger Woods. For all of the reasons you stated, he will not beat Nicklaus’ major record, but he could win another major or two. I believe Tiger is his own worst enemy. In his quest for perfection he has changed his swing on more than one occaison. That and many other factors, on and off the course, has changed him and not in a positive way.

  • sterling

    Eldrick will never win another major. The guy in the red shirt on Sunday has nothing to do with Tiger Woods.

    • dixiehummingbird


  • Randy Kranjec

    I doubt if Tiger will be relevant again–not so much age, but definitely a swing which broke down his body—can he learn an entirely new swing and be good enough to win majors again?? I don’t think so–so lets be happy for his great career and look forward to Rory and hopefully some other guys to step up and challenge him on a regular basis–Jack had at different times during his career–Arnie, Watson, Trevino, Player–Tiger dominated his era but did he have 4 guys that could duel with him on a regular basis, and will Rory have 4 guys who can? can we count on Scott, Fowler, Bubba, Stenson, Spieth to go toe to toe with him for the next 5-7 years?

    • Shalove2

      He won 5 times last year what are you smoking.

      • David Dorsey

        WAKE UP buddy and smoke this- Please do tell me based on his play in the MAJORS the
        last 6 1/2 years why will he all of the sudden come he will come out of
        his majors coma to win 5 more majors? We will go to Augusta in April
        with it being 10 years since he last won a green jacket and 7 years
        since he last won any major. He will be 39- Albeit
        a VERY old 39 will
        all his past injuries. Sure he can win on NON Major courses. A lot of
        guys can but only a SELECT few can win on MAJOR courses where the
        penalty for NOT hitting it long and STRAIGHT is SEVERE. He is
        CONSISTENTLY getting out drove by the young guns by 30+ yards and his
        putting stroke and psyche are TOTALLY shot. Eldrick is now getting beat
        at his old game of 10+ years ago where HE out-drove the competition by
        30+ yards and was consistently hitting short irons into the greens and
        making short puts. Those days are LONG gone my friend. The straw that
        truly broke the camels back was 5 years ago when he lost a 54 hole lead
        for the first time ever. That was at the PGA Championship to POWER-HOUSE
        YE Yang LOL! Since then has truly been a shell of the old Eldrick. He
        CAN”T drive or putt anymore thus he cant win MAJORS. Besides that he now
        has a bum back and knee. He is truly toast and if you don’t have any
        nice jam to pass him please do get out a nice Kleenex- box for you and
        him. LOL

        • Scott

          Keep in mind it had been 11 years since jack had won at Augusta in 1986, age 46, nobody giving him even the slightest chance. What happened was the Greatest Master EVER!!! Tiger could, but won’t win another major.

      • dixiehummingbird


  • Doug Campbell

    Seems to me Tiger lost his focus when his dad died. Which culminated in his carousing around and subsequent divorce, partying all night, etc. I think if his dad was still here Tiger would still be out there breaking all kinds of records and sinking those 40-footers. Now he’s just another professional golfer but I’m waiting for the spark to return – the inner fire to win some more tournaments. I think he has the pilot light flickering but just can’t seem to find the gas.

    • Curt

      i agree..but do remember it was Tiger’s dad who predicted he would win 14 Major championships…and hes been stuck on 14 for six years. There was a point where we ALL thought 14 was on the lower end of the spectrum in terms of the number of Majors he would win. His problem is between the ears and i think that his struggle is deeper than what anyone else can fathom. I’m not sure whether its coincidental that he’s been stuck on 14 Majors for the amount of time he has…and it just so happens that was his dad’s number for him, long before we all knew what Tiger was truly capable of.

      • dixiehummingbird

        Did it take Jack six year to win his last major? Was he injured?

        • Scott

          It took Jack 6 years from his 17th to his 18th and final major win. 1980 (he won twice at age 40) to 1986, age 46.

  • Mark Bailey

    #6 will make sure he does not win again. The level of competion Tiger help to create is awesome!!

  • Monrovia, CA

    I can see him winning another major or two, once he gets the rust off from his layoff. I don’t see him beating Jack’s majors record; the competition is just too good now, and I am not sure Tiger can stay consistently healthy. And, I have to say it, it appears to me he has lost the “eye of the tiger”. Sorry, I couldn’t help myself! Anyway, he will win more tournaments before he is done, but father time gazes upon el tigre.

  • GB

    Vijay Singh won 22 times including a Major, a WGC, and two Fedex Cup events, AFTER his 40th birthday. And Tiger’s a much better player than VS.

    • Pingman 2.0

      Sam Snead made the cut that the PGA Championship @ the age of 67. Why stop with V.J. ? Look at VJ’s and Sam’s swing for a clue about their longevity.

    • Scott

      VJ never had injury issues. Sam Snead and VJ have nice, fluid, smooth swings whereas Tiger’s is violent and inconsistent.

  • Chris Jackson

    Pathetic that racism and sexism is woven into the article but journalism is on the steep decline so I guess it is par for the course (pardon the pun). Obviously the author bringing the membership policies at Augusta National is not familiar with the Bill of Rights and more specifically the freedom of association which is an individual and collective right in this country. That is relevant to an article that discussing Tiger trying to win another major….why? I have always wondered why people want to force themselves on others…if someone does not want you to be with them either at a golf club or dance club, why on earth would you want to be there?The only thing the author left out is the whereabouts of Fuzzy Zoeller and how his fried chicken comment in 1997 might be the real reason Tiger won’t win another major.

    • Garromond

      Golf is a racist game, right Chris ? We mention Tiger’s race because of the quality of his game.

      If Lee Elder, Charlie Sifford, Jim Thorpe, Calvin Peet, etc. had reached the level that Tiger plays at ( and yes, they were good in their own right ) race would be brought up simply because of the fact that the black community lacks, generally speaking, the opportunity’s of introduction to the game.( as you have noted. ) How many blacks do we find in hockey ?

      When Ted Cruz runs for president ( possible ) how many brain dead leftists will be labeled “racist” for opposing him only because he’s Cuban, justifiable or not.

      • gm5425

        Any thoughts on why the black community lacks the opportunity to be introduced to the game? Lee Trevino, (hispanic), grew up in extremely dire circumstances. Probably far worse than anyone I’ve ever known. He began working around a golf course and driving range and through hard work he became a great professional golfer. Sometimes you have to make your own opportunities.

      • Pingman 2.0

        Actually there are dozens of blacks playing Pro hockey.

    • ScottPeceny

      Still trying to figure out what you’re talking about Chris. I don’t follow you

      • WhiteChocolate

        What @disqus_YaVSveKH2Q:disqus is saying is any time you mention race in an article you are automatically racist. Even if you are a racist Scott I don’t care. @ScottPeceny:disqus You should have talked about Fuzz’s comments. Now that is truly a racist. I wonder if his Scotch tasted better when he said those inflammatory things. The snap at the end was classic. Gonna youtube it now because it’s always good for a laugh.

    • Jeff

      The author is actually complementing Tiger for helping break down those barriers which in REALITY do exist….since when did talking about fact become a sin. Shed your ignorance before replying next time.
      Great article…this author is spot on.
      I do think Tiger will win again, but the author’s reasons are spot on for why he won’t beat Jack’s record.

      • gm5425

        We have a black President and the greatest golfer we have ever seen is black. There are black doctors, attorneys, teachers, Mayors, Governors, CEOs, etc., etc. Any person in this country who puts forth the effort and hard work can accomplish any personal goal they have. When can we stop blaming racism for everything?

        • Vincent Mcelroy

          I didn’t realize that Jack NICKLAUS WAS bLACK!

          • dixiehummingbird

            Jack is not Black! The greatest golfer who ever lived is!! TW

      • Dennis Hurt

        Lee Elder was a black golfer before Tiger’s time and Trevino was an hispanic golfer. Both had success on the tour, albeit Trevino more than Elder. The fact that Tiger blazed any new racial territory or that he was discriminated in golf is pure fantasy. HIs record as a golfer speaks for itself. Clearly he has the greatest streak of wins in golf history. It is arguable, though, whether he is the greatest golfer of all time since longevity is a criteria that has to be considered. If he is able to win a few more majors and do so even in his 40’s would strengthen the case for him to be greatest of all time.

        • dixiehummingbird

          What? Tiger has taken this game to levels never before seen! Who won the Masters by 12 strokes? Who won the US Open by 15 strokes? We can manipulate the numbers and try to put others in the same category. But it will be a no go! Who has won 17 WGC’s with the closest pursuer at 3 victories? Who wins by a winning percentage never before seen or ever again expected? Who else has won multiple amateurs? Who is the winningest golfer of all time? Sam Snead you say; if you check, some of his wins are group wins. None of Tiger’s is a group win? You say four more majors? What makes you think that the man of the stats above will not win again? Els, Niclaus, Mickelson, in their forties and Tom Watson “almost” several times in his sixties and none of them have played as well as Tiger over their careers. What? He will not win one of the next 32-40. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

          • Scott

            Can you say MORON!!??!! Dixiehummingbird needs to actually check her facts before she spouts off her mouth. Tiger is not nor will ever be in the category of all of those except Phil.

    • Niedermeier

      It’s the current “mood” of the media: inject their intolerant rules of “Political Correctness” into a story whether it makes sense or not. Pure laziness and I guess they think it covers up the incompetence of the writer.

    • Scott

      Who’s the racist here.I don’t see other people posting about that and race has nothing to do with whether or not Tiger will win another major. The only ones bringing up race as I see on here are the ones that feel the need to keep it in the conversation like a Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. This is sport and it should keep to that and nothing more. The color of the skin has nothing to do with this discussion, so leave it at home!

  • brekko

    I agree with almost all your points, save for opening argument point about age? Golf is notorious for being a game in which people well into there middle age and beyond compete at the highest level. You didn’t make any mentions of the older players who’ve won tournaments that all the top level pros play, and they did it well into their 40’s. Greg Norman, Fred Couples, Jim Furyk (who’s name we see in the top ten about every week) and that’s just to cite a few. I would have maybe left this point off entirely or at least saved it for last.

    • ScottPeceny

      Only 35 of the 430 major champions have been 40+. That’s only 12%, so while it has been done, it isn’t regular. I would also say that winning and contending are not one and the same. Sure, Freddy is always on the Augusta leaderboard, but has he been close on Sunday in recent years? He hasn’t broken 70 on Sunday since 2001

      • Chris Jackson

        Freddy finished in the top-20 the last 5 tournaments and finished 3rd in 2006..

        • ScottPeceny

          Like I said, finishing top 20 and winning are completely different. Ask Jimmy Walker

          • gm5425

            Jimmy is probably more worried about Dustin Johnson spending all of his time at home in their neighborhood in Florida, while Walker is out on tour.

      • Scott

        You are right on with that point Scott with Jack having won 3 of those 35 age 40 and over.

  • Keith Panco

    You can’t present objective facts to Tiger worshippers. They will burn you at the stake for heresy.

  • Patrick John McHugh

    Tiger has not been truly healthy since 2008. If his back is fixed and if he can play his normal schedule starting in 2015 (which also means he can practice the way he wants to), then counting him down and out in the majors might be a very poor bet. He won 3 times in 2012 and 5 times in 2013. Check the record books, no other golfer in history has ever won 5 PGA Tour events (and they were big events with deep fields) in the year they turned 37 years old – only Tiger. Yes, yes, I know, The Players is not a “major” … but it does draw a deeper field than any of the majors. And two WGC event wins is no small potatoes either. So as much as some pundits want to dismiss Tiger as being over the hill and past his prime, just last year, with a back that was not healthy, he was still setting new records. In my opinion, it all depends on his health. He still has the drive and the desire, which far surpasses all other professional golfers. And he still has Sam Snead’s record to break for most PGA Tour wins ever (he only needs 3 more to tie Snead at 82). I do not think we have seen the end of Tiger Woods’ winning ways … nor the end of his winning majors … just as long as he gets his body fixed.

  • Pingman 2.0

    I shake my head when I read articles like this. The man had brutal back issues early this season. Then he had back surgery. Then he had to leave the clubs in the garage for 3 months. He has had 6 rounds of competitive golf, and every golf pundit out there is writing off Tiger.

    BTW what does your game look like after the first 6 rounds of your season ? I can tell you, I am usually 10 strokes above my Index. So just relax.

    Are Tiger’s best years behind him ? Yes, and so what. He will be 39 and healthy in 2015, and I see no reason why he can’t win a bunch of tournaments. Don’t change anything. Keep the same coach, and equipment. The rest of it will look after itself.

    • ScottPeceny

      Was there to watch him win last year- fun tournament. He certainly has the talent to win, but he must stay healthy and get his mental edge back.

  • JB

    With the change in putter and coach, you could even throw in the firing of Stevie? Not a big factor in the big picture, I know, but his old caddy is still winning majors. And honestly, I truly believe PEDs being front and center in the world of sports has had an effect on his “preparation”.

    • ScottPeceny

      If I were to add reasons 7 and 8, those would be the two. Had to cut the list at some point though. Thanks for the comment!

  • Bart

    I totally agree w/ reasons for Tiger’s demise especially the Butch & Scotty Cameron – you might add Pro V 1

    • golfer 5955

      Tiger didn’t go directly from Butch to Foley. Hank Haney was in between the two.

  • Daniel

    I’d very much like too see him contend at the pga championship, then the discussion will certainly change! It’s ok to say that he can’t catch Jack, but that he will never win again its a bit stretched. And I’ll tell you more, if he does win one of the next 5 he might even get the chance to win 18+ again…

    • gm5425

      You were about 2 weeks early on this comment Daniel.

  • robert

    If Tiger wants to go back to winning he and Butch Harmon need to kiss and make up. Butch developed his swing that had him winning and knows his game and his mind. All the swing changes have been his downfall. If he goes back to Butch that train will get back on track

    • Pingman 2.0

      It is more complicated than that. First it appears that Phil has some say in the matter, as he had to approve the addition of Fowler to Butch’s stable. Unlikely he would welcome Tiger back into the fold.

      Although Butch is enjoying his work, especially with the new young players like Fowler, I doubt he wants to get into the Tiger circus once again. Currently if Tiger wins it is all Tiger and when he loses it is his swing coach’s fault. Ask Sean Foley or Hank Haney. At 70 he doesn’t need that pressure.

      Finally, Butch can be very proud of his body of work with Tiger. He moulded him into the greatest winning machine in golf from a kid of 18. That time is past.

  • troystewart69

    Sure at 38yo you can pat yourself on the back about predicting his decline, kind of makes you a Golf Genius, right Peceny!?!?!?!? But guess what smart guy, he’s already won 14 Majors and holds countless records! And do not forget he won a Career Slam in consecutive majors…kind of forgot that didn’t you genius!?!?!?!?!?!? So Peceny, YOU TELL ME WHO WILL BE THE NEXT TO PULL OFF THAT FEAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    It will be some time before another one like him comes along and until then the popularity of golf and the Pro Tour is fading! Many discussions around Wood’s playing career have mostly
    been negative…looking for a weakness, a flaw, a misstep. Instead I
    would rather think of all the great moments he gave THIS generation.
    Many people today do not remember the play of Nicklaus, Palmer, Player,
    Trevino, etc.either because they were too young or were not interested.
    Wood’s made people who did not care about golf, watch!!! Granted this
    is the Era of HDTV, but no one has had such an impact with the public
    and sports as Woods, except for Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Wayne
    Gretsky, etc…all icons, did they decline in their later years? Yes,
    but we revel them today and forever!

    People can talk smack about
    him all they want, but give the man his due. The golfing industry and
    the PGA knows his value…its about time everyone else does too!!!

    • ScottieND

      Excellent Comment to a failed article.

    • Well Duh

      Lol. Did you even read the first half of the article? Were you sobbing uncontrollably when you wrote this?

    • shawn

      troystewart69- What a puzzling response. If it wasn’t for your good spelling, I’d suspect you were 12 years old.

  • troystewart69

    Six reasons why Scott Peceny is wrong about Woods: 1. Peceny is an idiot. 2. Peceny is a hack. 3. Peceny knows diddly about golf. 4. Peceny is a 36 handicapper! 5. Peceny is an Alum of MSU…GO BLUE!!! & 6. Peceny will never be TW!!!

    • ScottPeceny

      $20 a hole. Name the course!

      • troystewart69

        1 out of 6 ain’t bad…LMAO…pathetic!

  • Real Golfer

    Tiger’s temper pales in comparison to at least 10 other modern golfers, Pat Perez, John Daly, Stenson, Stadler, Sergio, Kevin Na, Rori Sabertinni just to name a few. Tom Weisckopf probably had the worst temper ever. It is fairly well known that Arnold Palmer routinely cheated on his wife during his day. (Google it). But the press was different then. You should aso read Ken Venturi’s book. He claims that Arnie heated in the ’58 Masters. Maybe I am just old, but I enjoy watching Tiger play whether he is playing great or struggling. It’s a tough game and getting frustrated is part of it. Anyone who plays golf knows it.

    • TAW

      that’s all good and fine but what do your mis- guided jab at other golfers have to do with tigers decline?
      FYI, if everything you read in a book is true (venturi’s) then… Go and read hank haney’s “the big miss” then come back and comment.

      • Mike_Trail

        That book was crazy. Good insight, even if some people were mad at Hank for writing it.

  • Mike_Trail

    Anyone who knows anything about Golf and specifically golf swings knew that his back was going to go out sooner rather than later. I had heard about Tiger before I ever watched him swing a club….and when I did finally see him swing I said “There is no way his back is going to hold up with that violent of a swing…” Jack’s hips went out, but Tigers Knee has gone out and now his back….what’s next..His Neck? His Hips?….only a matter of time. I think Tiger will win another Major, but he is definitely fighting his health vs time.

    • troystewart69

      “No way his back is going to hold up”. Sure at 38yo you can pat yourself on the back on how you predicted his decline, but guess what he’s already won 14 Majors and holds countless records! And do not forget he won a Career Slam in consecutive majors…YOU TELL ME WHO WILL BE THE NEXT TO DO IT!?!?!?!?!?!? So the part about his back, kind of makes your point seem….well, tardy!?

      It will be some time before another one like him comes along and until then the popularity of golf and the Pro Tour is fading! Many discussions around Wood’s playing career have mostly been negative…looking for a weakness, a flaw, a misstep. Instead I would rather think of all the great moments he gave THIS generation. Many people today do not remember the play of Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Trevino, etc.either because they were too young or were not interested. Wood’s made people who did not care about golf, watch!!! Granted this is the Era of HDTV, but no one has had such an impact with the public and sports as Woods, except for Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Wayne Gretsky, etc…all icons, did they decline in their later years? Yes, but we revel them today and forever!

      People can talk smack about him all they want, but give the man his due. The golfing industry and the PGA knows his value…its about time everyone else does also!!!

      • TAW

        Hey, Troy
        Is mickelson older than woods ? Yes
        How about Tom Watson who has been competitive in a major since tigers last win. Yes
        So, I ask where was their automatic back problems when they hit 38? comment makes you sound kind of Tardy (nice grammar)
        just like cut and paste

        • troystewart69

          Your idiot response is exactly why there should be a law preventing mentally challenged individuals from owning a computer. First of all IDIOT…look at Wood’s swing and compare that to Mickelson & Watson…notice any difference!?!?!?!?!?!? Secondly IDIOT, I get the point Peceny is making, but if you read my response, processed it through the 3 brain cells you have left from the botched abortion, you would see the point I was making…IT’S CALLED RESPECT!!! Any jackhole like Peceny or IDIOT like you can beat a person down when they are struggling, but if Woods did not do one more thing in his career, guess what…HE ACCOMPLISHMENT A UNIVERSE MORE THAN PECENY OR YOU!!! IDIOT!!!

          • ScottPeceny

            Man I’m not sure how I got dragged into this one…

          • Mike_Trail

            Doesn’t matter Scott, Tiger’s Latest Withdrawal is all the evidence you really need. Dudes done.

          • Mike_Trail

            Hey Troy, Did you see who withdrew from his latest Tournament…with a Back Injury…Guess Who?!

      • Mike_Trail

        Wait what???? I didn’t say he wasn’t good, I said his swing was too violent to sustain over the course of a long career. A career that will have to be quite long in order to Catch Jacks record, a record that has been his goal from the get go. Even Jack thought he was going to catch him. The problem is that Tiger’s body is starting to fall apart before he reached the goal. Like I said, its Health vs Time….and now the rest of the field has caught up to Tiger, they are younger, longer, healthier, and just as good if not better…Tiger needs 5 more majors to pass Jack. He is 38 years old. I just don’t see how it is going to happen. That knee is in MUCH worse shape than I think you realize also. The thing about golf, which is different than most sports, is that ANY small injury can become nagging because your swing utilizes your ENTIRE body, and if you can’t use your entire body, your golf shots show it. It’s not like football or soccer where you can play with a broken hand, or finger, or a sprained ankle or whatever. These injuries to Tiger are Real, and they are debilitating, and they aren’t really ever going to go away.

  • Samuele

    I think, sadly, that he is right. Tiger is now getting older, And I don’t see him winning again. I’m not a hater, I would like tiger to win again a major, I, just like him don’t see him winning a major

  • African

    Hahaha…trying to find one reason why you will win a major….mmm cant find any

  • Clyde

    I can’t believe no one but me thinks the steroids are breaking his body down. The bad behavior on the course that TV cameras try to hide turned me off liking Tiger, throwing clubs and cussing was never done by other greats, Jack, Arnie, Sam, Phil.

    I would add firing Steve Williams was his biggest mistake after his personal disgraces.

    • crocodileteeth

      It has long been obvious that he took Human Growth Hormone, provided by the Canadian doctor renowned for giving it to athletes, and who was a house guest of Woods’ in Florida.. Why the PGA has not banned him is clearly because of money—he doubles TV audiences—but it does nothing for drug-free sport and is to be deprecated. Indeed, he has been tested, but the PGA refuses to release the result for obvious reasons. This frankly STINKS.

    • Front Row Tickets

      I agree with you.

  • Deuce Pilsner

    Scott Peceny. To say Tiger Woods will never win another major…you sir…are an idiot.

    • crocodileteeth

      Care to bet your house on it?
      It is almost certain he never will again, not least because of the lumbar disc surgery, which is the death knell to successful golf.
      In short, you, sir, are an idiot who knows nothing of medicine or the effect of lumbar spinal surgery.

      • Kmac

        I was a D2 college player. Two years after I graduated I had a portion of the L5-S1 disk removed (September of 2012). In 2013, I had the best golf year of my life. Felt reinvigorated, lucky that I could be out there, and played to a +1.5 handicap. Certainly not a death sentence to golf.

        • ScottPeceny

          That is very interesting Kmac. I played collegiately myself and know many guys who have had careers derailed by back issues. I have my own back problems, although it’s nothing that affects me too much. Good to hear a story about a very successful surgery- certainly Tiger will hope for similar results to you.

    • Lasiter

      You Deuce are the idiot. Scott gave you 6 plus reasons why. He left out #7 which is o.k. but is probably the most important. Hormone drugs. This stuff will give an athlete increased energy, stamina, and strength/power in the short term – but it will be the downfall as that athlete ages.
      Everyone is different. Tiger may last longer than any other – but with his knee and back, esp his back I also believe he is faltering and the drugs are beginning to take it’s toll.
      Also, too many extremely good golfers now out there and coming up – the new generation – a whole new group of Tigers that he has to defeat every week or every few wekks – or months.
      No, I believe he gave us a peek at what is to come – where did he finish? 60th plus ! Holy Moly
      how many times can he mentally finish way back? He will try too hard and like Lee Triveno and his back problems – I shall say no more – but the bottom line is, I agree with Scott.

  • Ronald Branch

    I hope Tiger shuts the world up and get it done. Too many haters out there! He will win more majors and yes The Masters too! If not this year, for sure in the future. Win this Masters Tiger! I believe!

    • crocodileteeth

      Your ‘;belief’ is ill founded.
      I’m not a ‘hater’, but his club-throwing, spitting and swearing is disgusting, and we can do without such coarse behaviour, thanks very much.

    • lasiter

      Why do you call them haters? I would call it more like , “he is disliked”. Part of it is because he is “in your face” every time he excels. A fist pump that says “up yours” ! The cursing! The womanizing. The cruel way he treated his wife, Elin – one of the nicest persons you ever want to know or to meet.
      I wouldn’t say that he is “hated” – How can you really like a person who has “no personality to really like”. Nothing like Ernie Els, or Arnie, or Gary, or Jack, or Steve Stricker, or Tom Watson, or Mickelson . That’s why I don’t “hope” for anything. “Hope” is for losers!
      Think about that!

  • scott plum

    “the masses flocked to see him play” Yeah ,unlike arnies army.When jones won the grand slam ,they had a ticker tape parade in nyc for him,but nobody cared about golf until tiger came along.”energetic ,aggressive style” Yeah Arnold was never like that . Hogan and Nelsen were dirt poor and had to start as caddies. Tiger was never poor.As far as prize money going up compare the contracts in basketball and baseball fron 1997 to today, Everything goes up.Tiger without question is one of the alltime greats but all these conclusions are not based on fact.Like everything else in the modern world the only question is which is greater the ignorance or the stupidity? and they wonder why journalism is dead.

    • ScottPeceny

      Easy now. I didn’t say that “nobody cared about golf until Tiger came around.” I said that he increased the game’s popularity. If you don’t think that’s true, then you are entitled to your opinion. I do happen to believe that he had a huge impact on the game, like Arnold and Jack had. He can’t be credited entirely with the increase in purse, but he definitely deserves some credit. Have you been to a tournament with Tiger in the field? His following is rivaled only by Phil, and TV coverage is basically a broadcast of Tiger’s shots with a few other guys sprinkled in while Tiger walks to his next shot.

      Thanks for reading and commenting- I’m always open for a good debate.

      • Mike_Trail

        He totally increased the games popularity, there is no denying that, what I don’t understand is the media’s obsession with him. He hasn’t done anything in YEARS…They need to shine the light on someone else, like Rory and the rest of the awesome young players. Tiger can re-take the spotlight when he does something, but until then, Im tired of listening to stuff about him because he has become irrelevant IMO…he’s not a force to contend with anymore, yet there are a LOT of guys who have become exactly that.

    • crocodileteeth

      Nicklaus, Young Tom Morris, Vardon and Hogan/Snead were the REAL greats.

      • ed

        you for get Bobby Jones. The only one to ever accomplish a TRUE grand slam.And he played as an amateur.

    • Mike_Trail

      Hogan would sleep in a sand trap before the course would open so he could be the first one to get a Caddie gig for the day…..and then he became Ben Hogan. Tiger is standing on the shoulders of Giants.

  • Geezus Khrist

    I had always thought about what Jack had said along time ago, “He went around, doing what he could to Tiger-proof the courses”, and he has mentioned this more then once. That record that they speak of, he would have already surpassed it, it would have fell along time ago if they hadn’t made a lot changes in trying to thwart his raw-power of owning this game like no other before him. And, most likely we’ll never see another person of this caliber again.

  • troy

    If he does not win anymore he will still be recognized as the greatest golfer ever.

    • ScottPeceny

      Quite possibly so. If not, certainly the most influential

    • troy

      I believe the game of golf will love to see tiger when another major anf if possible 5

  • Andy

    Golf is a mental game, although it involves physical fitness to support it. It’s all about things inside player’s mind. As it happens with any known sports played, there will be winner or loser. If it is said that Tiger will not win any major again, that’s is not entirely true. Everyone has equal chances of winning or losing

  • Kommissar Alexei

    He won 14 majors with that putter, not 13. And he fired Haney to go to Foley. He left Harmon ages ago.

    • ScottPeceny

      Not true. He won 13 with the Newport 2 and one (97 Masters) with a Scotty Cameron Terrylium. I referenced Harmon because I felt he had the most success with him. I should have probably worded that differently though. Thanks for reading.

      • Kommissar Alexei

        It was an enjoyable read. Thanks for writing.

    • Komment Lhogin

      Haney actually quit.

  • Sharon Benson

    Don’t count him out just yet.

  • Hallesy

    Jack is my favorite golfer of all time as I grew up watching and rooting
    for him. Tiger used to be my second favorite golfer but because I put a
    premium on how a person behaves both on and off the course I just have
    trouble supporting Tiger anymore. I always wanted him to win but now I
    find myself rooting for someone to beat him or actually cheering when he
    does poorly. From what I have seen he is a decent human but not
    someone who I can really root for anymore. It is disappointing as so
    many young kids looked up to him. Also with the way the company that
    just won the lawsuit against him says he treated them gives me more
    reason to root against him. I feel cheated somehow that one of the
    greatest athletes of all time has lost my respect to a degree. I must
    say however that I root for him more than any non American golfer and I
    love nothing more than when he wins a tournament for America. So I
    guess I am still a Tiger fan but not as big as I once was!

    • James Mase

      Tigers a very generous person ans especially nice to kids. Always handing out balls and signed gloves every tournament. So what if some company is trying to get rich off of him. We really dont know the full story to be judging.

  • dwight

    time will tell but i think you are wrong!!!!!!!!

    • ScottPeceny

      I certainly hope so Dwight. Nobody is more fun to watch. Thanks for the comment

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    • clouseau31

      I was a volunteer at Firestone for years and saw a lot of great golfers and none were as arrogant or overbearing as Woods and I never heard another golfer say a good word about this phenom nor any volunteer for that matter!! His arrogance was too much for anyone to take and I hope he never wins spit but I am afraid he will..He still shows flashes of the game that brought him to this point in his game and life but to those that
      really know him or volunteered he will always be an arrogant male!!!!

      • Hefe

        Personally, I don’t watch TW because I like him, same with MJ. I watch because they both have/had that little extra something that made it exciting.